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OP here. Would really like to gather some data about what kind of conversions this would get on a site with some scale. Thesis is that for brands that have a

OP here. Would really like to gather some data about what kind of conversions this would get on a site with some scale. Thesis is that for brands that have a loyal following, we might be able to get close to PPC unit economics.

Klathmon 11y ago
i havent used bitcoin for years, so excuse me if i'm asking stupid questions, but how many steps is it to donate from the time i see it to when the money flows? Realistically i could only see myself doing this if it was less than 3 clicks and a grand total of about 30 seconds of time. Any more than that and i'm just not going to bother if i'm honest. Also, this might go against what you are trying to do, but would it be possible to maybe keep a counter of how many of these "ads" were blocked (only on the client) and maybe update the suggested donation based on that? I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. Ninja-edit: And finally, is there a service that you could work with to allow easy donations via other currencies and have them auto converted to bitcoin? I don't have a bitcoin wallet any more, but if there was a button next to the donate button that took you to a 3rd party website that allowed me to pay in USD and have it converted to bitcoin and sent to the website I might contribute.
- ksowocki 11y ago
  > i havent used bitcoin for years, so excuse me if i'm asking stupid questions, but how many steps is it to donate from the time i see it to when the money flows? There are no stupid questions, cryptocurrency is not intuitive in many ways :) Steps on mobile: 1. Open iPhone / Coinbase app 2. Scan QR Code 3. Input amount 4. Press send Similar process on desktop, but probably with a copy/paste code instead of QR code. Realistically i could only see myself doing this if it was less than 3 clicks and a grand total of about 30 seconds of time. It's definitely less than 30 seconds as long as your iPhone is across the room and/or you have coinbase. > Also, this might go against what you are trying to do, but would it be possible to maybe keep a counter of how many of these "ads" were blocked (only on the client) and maybe update the suggested donation based on that? Yes, data and testing of conversion percentages and unit economics is going to be important if this ever takes off. > I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. That's a great idea! I'll have to add this copy to the 'to test' list!
  - Ntrails 11y ago
    I'd focus on how much value I've got out of the site (26 visits worth - holy cow!!11!!!1!) rather than how many god awful adverts I've avoided - which is more likely to make me woot softly for adblock and move on.
- ksowocki 11y ago
  > I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. I think this is a great idea and I've updated one of the ads in the demo with this copy suggestion.
mirimir 11y ago
I totally love this! At least, as long as payments reliably go to publishers. And as long as the Bitcoin payment processor doesn't request contact information. I was recently going to donate 200 mBTC to Wikipedia, for example, and bailed when asked for postal address.

Klathmon 11y ago

i havent used bitcoin for years, so excuse me if i'm asking stupid questions, but how many steps is it to donate from the time i see it to when the money flows? Realistically i could only see myself doing this if it was less than 3 clicks and a grand total of about 30 seconds of time. Any more than that and i'm just not going to bother if i'm honest. Also, this might go against what you are trying to do, but would it be possible to maybe keep a counter of how many of these "ads" were blocked (only on the client) and maybe update the suggested donation based on that? I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. Ninja-edit: And finally, is there a service that you could work with to allow easy donations via other currencies and have them auto converted to bitcoin? I don't have a bitcoin wallet any more, but if there was a button next to the donate button that took you to a 3rd party website that allowed me to pay in USD and have it converted to bitcoin and sent to the website I might contribute.

ksowocki 11y ago
> i havent used bitcoin for years, so excuse me if i'm asking stupid questions, but how many steps is it to donate from the time i see it to when the money flows? There are no stupid questions, cryptocurrency is not intuitive in many ways :) Steps on mobile: 1. Open iPhone / Coinbase app 2. Scan QR Code 3. Input amount 4. Press send Similar process on desktop, but probably with a copy/paste code instead of QR code. Realistically i could only see myself doing this if it was less than 3 clicks and a grand total of about 30 seconds of time. It's definitely less than 30 seconds as long as your iPhone is across the room and/or you have coinbase. > Also, this might go against what you are trying to do, but would it be possible to maybe keep a counter of how many of these "ads" were blocked (only on the client) and maybe update the suggested donation based on that? Yes, data and testing of conversion percentages and unit economics is going to be important if this ever takes off. > I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. That's a great idea! I'll have to add this copy to the 'to test' list!
- Ntrails 11y ago
  I'd focus on how much value I've got out of the site (26 visits worth - holy cow!!11!!!1!) rather than how many god awful adverts I've avoided - which is more likely to make me woot softly for adblock and move on.
ksowocki 11y ago
> I personally might be more willing to donate if i saw "You've blocked 384 ads on this site" or something like "you've visited this page 26 times over the last month" and an updated suggested donation to match the usage. I think this is a great idea and I've updated one of the ads in the demo with this copy suggestion.

mirimir 11y ago

I totally love this! At least, as long as payments reliably go to publishers. And as long as the Bitcoin payment processor doesn't request contact information. I was recently going to donate 200 mBTC to Wikipedia, for example, and bailed when asked for postal address.