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>no matter how much philanthropy he's involved in Not even that, I had the fortune of glossing over this gem earlier today: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/12/z

by joonoro 11y ago

>no matter how much philanthropy he's involved in Not even that, I had the fortune of glossing over this gem earlier today: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/12/zuckerberg-has-not-donated-anything-you-gullible-credulous-pinheads/ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/12/zuckerberg-has-not-donated-... EDIT: apparently the site I linked doesn't like linking from HN, sorry folks I had no idea.

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l1n 11y ago
That site seems to block hotlinking from HN: here's a mirror https://archive.is/jjS21 https://archive.is/jjS21
- cronjobber 11y ago
  JWZ actually blocks links from HN, specifically. No love lost there, it seems.
- striking 11y ago
  Your link is blocked too. As long as you paste it into a new tab you're fine. I'm not going to bother looking up the specific tweet he said this in but jwz has "no time for HN"
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Breaking the web in such a way is completely inacceptable. http://www.donotlink.com/hkjc http://www.donotlink.com/hkjc
    - striking 11y ago
      It's his website. By design, the Internet lets you do whatever you think is best, even if what you think is best is totally misguided. I actually almost agree, that perhaps HN should create some sort of gateway that decreases the bandwidth costs of content creators.
      - colanderman 11y ago
        I mean, I can walk around the street yelling "penis" at anyone wearing orange. Doesn't mean I'm not an asshole for doing so.
      - 15155 11y ago
        It's called CloudFlare (only a little tongue-in-cheek).
    - weland 11y ago
      It will be fun to see someone lecturing JWZ on what he can do and what he cannot do on the web.
      - kuschku 11y ago
        He can try to be an asshole, but no one – not even Sir Berners Lee – has the moral right to be an asshole just for the sake of it. Torvalds behaviour is justified, as he provides, despite the rough tone, constructive criticism. JWZ doesn’t even do that. (Also, sending people a plaintext page explaining the issue would cost less of his traffic, and be less problematic)
  - l1n 11y ago
    Found it: "@sloverlord Hacker News is a steaming cesspool and I don't have time or desire to deal with their bandwidth demands, so I just block them." ~jwz https://twitter.com/jwz/status/665658171415859200 https://twitter.com/jwz/status/665658171415859200
- colanderman 11y ago
  That's not hotlinking, that's just linking. Hotlinking refers specifically to embedding content (e.g. an image or iframe) from another host. JWZ, despite being one of the main engineers at Netscape, does not seem to know what hotlinking means, and is (a) happy to break the web, and (b) happy to look like an asshole by making penises pop up on random people's computers because they didn't know "don't click a link to this random dude's site from HN". HN mods, any chance of disabling autolinking for JWZ sites?
valhalla 11y ago
The New York Times talked about it too: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark-zuckerbergs-altruism-helps-himself.html?src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark...
thieving_magpie 11y ago
That's a picture of a man's testicle in a chalice. While puzzling and slightly impressive, I wish I hadn't opened that at work :)
- colanderman 11y ago
  All of JWZ's links do that, because he chose to break the internet for specious reasons. I doubt it even achieves his aim of reducing traffic from HN. I've contacted HN staff about disabling autolinking for URIs in his domain for the reason you state. They're effectively no different than any other "spammy" link due to his HN-specific redirection.
  - dang 11y ago
    I'm not sure what the best solution is. For now I guess we'll put it in the category that other penis picture sites go in.
    - colanderman 11y ago
      Perfect thanks for your attention to this issue.
    - thieving_magpie 11y ago
      I would like to clarify that this was just a testicle and should probably be filed in a testicle-only picture category.
      - dang 11y ago
        Wow, that's... indisputable. What can't this community be relied upon to correct?
        thieving_magpie 11y ago
        In hindsight, that's probably how it passed the penis filter! Thanks for doing your mod thing and preventing genital pictures, i know it's generally thankless.
dang 11y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10703853 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10703853 and marked it off-topic.

by joonoro 11y ago

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l1n 11y ago

That site seems to block hotlinking from HN: here's a mirror https://archive.is/jjS21 https://archive.is/jjS21

cronjobber 11y ago
JWZ actually blocks links from HN, specifically. No love lost there, it seems.
striking 11y ago
Your link is blocked too. As long as you paste it into a new tab you're fine. I'm not going to bother looking up the specific tweet he said this in but jwz has "no time for HN"
- kuschku 11y ago
  Breaking the web in such a way is completely inacceptable. http://www.donotlink.com/hkjc http://www.donotlink.com/hkjc
  - striking 11y ago
    It's his website. By design, the Internet lets you do whatever you think is best, even if what you think is best is totally misguided. I actually almost agree, that perhaps HN should create some sort of gateway that decreases the bandwidth costs of content creators.
    - colanderman 11y ago
      I mean, I can walk around the street yelling "penis" at anyone wearing orange. Doesn't mean I'm not an asshole for doing so.
    - 15155 11y ago
      It's called CloudFlare (only a little tongue-in-cheek).
  - weland 11y ago
    It will be fun to see someone lecturing JWZ on what he can do and what he cannot do on the web.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      He can try to be an asshole, but no one – not even Sir Berners Lee – has the moral right to be an asshole just for the sake of it. Torvalds behaviour is justified, as he provides, despite the rough tone, constructive criticism. JWZ doesn’t even do that. (Also, sending people a plaintext page explaining the issue would cost less of his traffic, and be less problematic)
- l1n 11y ago
  Found it: "@sloverlord Hacker News is a steaming cesspool and I don't have time or desire to deal with their bandwidth demands, so I just block them." ~jwz https://twitter.com/jwz/status/665658171415859200 https://twitter.com/jwz/status/665658171415859200
colanderman 11y ago
That's not hotlinking, that's just linking. Hotlinking refers specifically to embedding content (e.g. an image or iframe) from another host. JWZ, despite being one of the main engineers at Netscape, does not seem to know what hotlinking means, and is (a) happy to break the web, and (b) happy to look like an asshole by making penises pop up on random people's computers because they didn't know "don't click a link to this random dude's site from HN". HN mods, any chance of disabling autolinking for JWZ sites?

valhalla 11y ago

The New York Times talked about it too: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark-zuckerbergs-altruism-helps-himself.html?src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark...

thieving_magpie 11y ago

That's a picture of a man's testicle in a chalice. While puzzling and slightly impressive, I wish I hadn't opened that at work :)

colanderman 11y ago
All of JWZ's links do that, because he chose to break the internet for specious reasons. I doubt it even achieves his aim of reducing traffic from HN. I've contacted HN staff about disabling autolinking for URIs in his domain for the reason you state. They're effectively no different than any other "spammy" link due to his HN-specific redirection.
- dang 11y ago
  I'm not sure what the best solution is. For now I guess we'll put it in the category that other penis picture sites go in.
  - colanderman 11y ago
    Perfect thanks for your attention to this issue.
  - thieving_magpie 11y ago
    I would like to clarify that this was just a testicle and should probably be filed in a testicle-only picture category.
    - dang 11y ago
      Wow, that's... indisputable. What can't this community be relied upon to correct?
      - thieving_magpie 11y ago
        In hindsight, that's probably how it passed the penis filter! Thanks for doing your mod thing and preventing genital pictures, i know it's generally thankless.

dang 11y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10703853 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10703853 and marked it off-topic.