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That, and for me personally also because i avoid Google products whenever i can since i will be paying (for these "free apps") with my privacy. I only resort to

That, and for me personally also because i avoid Google products whenever i can since i will be paying (for these "free apps") with my privacy. I only resort to Google Maps if i can't find something in Apple Maps. As far as i'm aware, Apple Maps is only usable for people who payed for Apple devices, which is why Apple doesn't have to sell my privacy to create a Maps app. Google Maps however, is "free" for anyone to use.

kristiandupont 11y ago
I am curious (genuinely -- no snark) if your concern is mostly a theoretical/political one or if it's more personal? Are you worried that you might somehow be compromised because of lax privacy? If so, how? Or is it that you don't agree with the idea of your data being in the hands of Google and/or sold to others?
- DavideNL 11y ago
  I rather pay for services with money instead of privacy, unless i know my data is being used for a good cause. For example i don't mind sharing my data in a hospital with a university for educational purposes. However, for example, I don't like sharing my data with LinkedIn, who then sells it, makes a huge profit, and even tries to sell the gathered data back to the users themselves in order to get full access to search results. Also this is a good example which explains how people don't seem to value digital privacy equal to "real life privacy" (probably because they don't fully understand?) : https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ PS. to all the people downvoting, it's rather childish to downvote, without replying/communicating at all, just because you don't agree with my opinion. If you think facts are wrong then reply something constructive.
Oletros 11y ago
And exactly who Google sells your privacy?
- DavideNL 11y ago
  To ad companies for example: http://www.imore.com/giving-up-on-google http://www.imore.com/giving-up-on-google https://startpage.com/do/search?query=google+sells+privacy&cat=web&language=english https://startpage.com/do/search?query=google+sells+privacy&c...
  - Oletros 11y ago
    What is selling Google to ad companies? The same thing Apple is selling with iAds?
    - DavideNL 11y ago
      > The same thing Apple is selling with iAds? Yea you have a point there. It's less of a problem though because i only see iAds if i download and use "free" apps, which i don't. There is always the possibility to buy the apps, and in this case i won't ever see any ads at all. However there is no way to pay for Google products like Google Search or Gmail to 'not see ads'. Google always sells your data. It's obvious of course, how else can they deliver a free product and cover their costs...

kristiandupont 11y ago

I am curious (genuinely -- no snark) if your concern is mostly a theoretical/political one or if it's more personal? Are you worried that you might somehow be compromised because of lax privacy? If so, how? Or is it that you don't agree with the idea of your data being in the hands of Google and/or sold to others?

DavideNL 11y ago
I rather pay for services with money instead of privacy, unless i know my data is being used for a good cause. For example i don't mind sharing my data in a hospital with a university for educational purposes. However, for example, I don't like sharing my data with LinkedIn, who then sells it, makes a huge profit, and even tries to sell the gathered data back to the users themselves in order to get full access to search results. Also this is a good example which explains how people don't seem to value digital privacy equal to "real life privacy" (probably because they don't fully understand?) : https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ PS. to all the people downvoting, it's rather childish to downvote, without replying/communicating at all, just because you don't agree with my opinion. If you think facts are wrong then reply something constructive.

Oletros 11y ago

And exactly who Google sells your privacy?

DavideNL 11y ago
To ad companies for example: http://www.imore.com/giving-up-on-google http://www.imore.com/giving-up-on-google https://startpage.com/do/search?query=google+sells+privacy&cat=web&language=english https://startpage.com/do/search?query=google+sells+privacy&c...
- Oletros 11y ago
  What is selling Google to ad companies? The same thing Apple is selling with iAds?
  - DavideNL 11y ago
    > The same thing Apple is selling with iAds? Yea you have a point there. It's less of a problem though because i only see iAds if i download and use "free" apps, which i don't. There is always the possibility to buy the apps, and in this case i won't ever see any ads at all. However there is no way to pay for Google products like Google Search or Gmail to 'not see ads'. Google always sells your data. It's obvious of course, how else can they deliver a free product and cover their costs...