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I wonder if it's not just because it's integrated with other apps, and a top suggestion when you want maps. I still find that google maps is leaps and bounds ah

by uvesten 11y ago

I wonder if it's not just because it's integrated with other apps, and a top suggestion when you want maps. I still find that google maps is leaps and bounds ahead for navigation.

Nicholas_C 11y ago
I'm sure that's it. Sort of how most people use Internet Explorer on Windows, because it's the default. From the article: >Many people use Apple Maps just because it comes with the phone. Even if you've taken the trouble to download a competing app, other iPhone services such as Siri and Mail will invariably take you to Apple Maps. >Without the ability to steer users this way, Apple "would not be in the position they are in," IDC analyst John Jackson said. "Not that they aren't improving the experience, but this helps the cause."
- matthewmacleod 11y ago
  I'm sure that's it. Sort of how most people use Internet Explorer on Windows, because it's the default. That's a faulty argument, because most people do not use Internet Explorer on Windows. Chrome's desktop share is at 60%, compared with IE's at 16%. Clearly people are happy to use non-default applications.
  - Nicholas_C 11y ago
    According to the below website IE has the largest market share on desktops. I'm not sure how accurate these stats are. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr...
freddref 11y ago
Maybe people shouldn't rely on it so much but I don't think the service is good enough for safe travel. Seems all that's changed is that it is now dominant. My perception of quality hasn't changed since the 'laughing stock' news hype when released.
DavideNL 11y ago
That, and for me personally also because i avoid Google products whenever i can since i will be paying (for these "free apps") with my privacy. I only resort to Google Maps if i can't find something in Apple Maps. As far as i'm aware, Apple Maps is only usable for people who payed for Apple devices, which is why Apple doesn't have to sell my privacy to create a Maps app. Google Maps however, is "free" for anyone to use.
- kristiandupont 11y ago
  I am curious (genuinely -- no snark) if your concern is mostly a theoretical/political one or if it's more personal? Are you worried that you might somehow be compromised because of lax privacy? If so, how? Or is it that you don't agree with the idea of your data being in the hands of Google and/or sold to others?
  - DavideNL 11y ago
    I rather pay for services with money instead of privacy, unless i know my data is being used for a good cause. For example i don't mind sharing my data in a hospital with a university for educational purposes. However, for example, I don't like sharing my data with LinkedIn, who then sells it, makes a huge profit, and even tries to sell the gathered data back to the users themselves in order to get full access to search results. Also this is a good example which explains how people don't seem to value digital privacy equal to "real life privacy" (probably because they don't fully understand?) : https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ PS. to all the people downvoting, it's rather childish to downvote, without replying/communicating at all, just because you don't agree with my opinion. If you think facts are wrong then reply something constructive.
- Oletros 11y ago
  And exactly who Google sells your privacy?
  - DavideNL 11y ago
james_p 11y ago
In the UK I've found Google maps unusable for navigation. It will consistently fail to give turnings and exits until too late. On the other hand, the only problem I've found with Apple maps is the weird pronunciation of road numbers.
legulere 11y ago
Most users won't look for the best app, but for the first that is good enough. The first things where people will look are: Stuff already installed on the device; Stuff that people already used before. If IE6 didn't have fatal flaws like a lack of tabs, alternative browsers would have never gotten so big.

by uvesten 11y ago

I wonder if it's not just because it's integrated with other apps, and a top suggestion when you want maps. I still find that google maps is leaps and bounds ahead for navigation.

Nicholas_C 11y ago

I'm sure that's it. Sort of how most people use Internet Explorer on Windows, because it's the default. From the article: >Many people use Apple Maps just because it comes with the phone. Even if you've taken the trouble to download a competing app, other iPhone services such as Siri and Mail will invariably take you to Apple Maps. >Without the ability to steer users this way, Apple "would not be in the position they are in," IDC analyst John Jackson said. "Not that they aren't improving the experience, but this helps the cause."

matthewmacleod 11y ago
I'm sure that's it. Sort of how most people use Internet Explorer on Windows, because it's the default. That's a faulty argument, because most people do not use Internet Explorer on Windows. Chrome's desktop share is at 60%, compared with IE's at 16%. Clearly people are happy to use non-default applications.
- Nicholas_C 11y ago
  According to the below website IE has the largest market share on desktops. I'm not sure how accurate these stats are. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr...

freddref 11y ago

Maybe people shouldn't rely on it so much but I don't think the service is good enough for safe travel. Seems all that's changed is that it is now dominant. My perception of quality hasn't changed since the 'laughing stock' news hype when released.

DavideNL 11y ago

That, and for me personally also because i avoid Google products whenever i can since i will be paying (for these "free apps") with my privacy. I only resort to Google Maps if i can't find something in Apple Maps. As far as i'm aware, Apple Maps is only usable for people who payed for Apple devices, which is why Apple doesn't have to sell my privacy to create a Maps app. Google Maps however, is "free" for anyone to use.

kristiandupont 11y ago
I am curious (genuinely -- no snark) if your concern is mostly a theoretical/political one or if it's more personal? Are you worried that you might somehow be compromised because of lax privacy? If so, how? Or is it that you don't agree with the idea of your data being in the hands of Google and/or sold to others?
- DavideNL 11y ago
  I rather pay for services with money instead of privacy, unless i know my data is being used for a good cause. For example i don't mind sharing my data in a hospital with a university for educational purposes. However, for example, I don't like sharing my data with LinkedIn, who then sells it, makes a huge profit, and even tries to sell the gathered data back to the users themselves in order to get full access to search results. Also this is a good example which explains how people don't seem to value digital privacy equal to "real life privacy" (probably because they don't fully understand?) : https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ https://ar.al/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ PS. to all the people downvoting, it's rather childish to downvote, without replying/communicating at all, just because you don't agree with my opinion. If you think facts are wrong then reply something constructive.
Oletros 11y ago
And exactly who Google sells your privacy?
- DavideNL 11y ago

james_p 11y ago

In the UK I've found Google maps unusable for navigation. It will consistently fail to give turnings and exits until too late. On the other hand, the only problem I've found with Apple maps is the weird pronunciation of road numbers.

legulere 11y ago

Most users won't look for the best app, but for the first that is good enough. The first things where people will look are: Stuff already installed on the device; Stuff that people already used before. If IE6 didn't have fatal flaws like a lack of tabs, alternative browsers would have never gotten so big.