Seems like these points glossed a lot of things as well. I mean... what language that locks you down with one specific operating system (up until recently when

Seems like these points glossed a lot of things as well. I mean... what language that locks you down with one specific operating system (up until recently when they lost the market)? I see other languages copying Java tools/ecosystems but I give you 10% point for which Java syntax was behind for years. Your point #4 don't make any sense at all. The only reason Microsoft goes OSS these days because they simply _lost_ their bread and butter: developers. Back then, they haven't entirely lost them so there's no way on earth that Microsoft will be pulling whatever they're doing these days. > It's ok to use mature tools to get shit done now but proposing them as new frontier doesn't make sense. Unfortunately none of the current language seems to get shit done in a reliable, reusable, and ubiquity as Java.