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I mean it is bad that people can leave fake reviews, but it is even more messed up that amazon can sue these people for essentially breaking their tos. It is o
by pfisch 11y ago
I mean it is bad that people can leave fake reviews, but it is even more messed up that amazon can sue these people for essentially breaking their tos.
It is on Amazon to find technical solutions to technical problems like this, not the government.
- bitJericho 11y agoIt's a technical problem that people commit fraud?
- mirimir 11y agoIt strikes me as odd to characterize civil suits as "the government". Maybe private enforcement organizations would be harder on fake reviewers ;)
- dragonwriter 11y agoCivil courts, and the laws which they apply, are both products of government. It would be extremely odd to characterize them otherwise
- mirimir 11y agoBut here, Amazon is the plaintiff. The government merely provides the (ideally neutral) structure. And common law goes back millennia. Would guys with baseball bats be a better option?
- dragonwriter 11y ago> But here, Amazon is the plaintiff. And...so? > The government merely provides the (ideally neutral) structure. Yes, the government provides the courts, the laws that the courts enforce, and the laws that provide compulsory processes associated with legal actions once they are under way, and mechanism to enforce the remedies determined by that system. Resort to the legal system is a resort to government. > And common law goes back millennia. Not sure what that has to do with the issue of whether action the civil court system is aptly characterized as a use of government. Governments have been around for millennia, too. (And the actual complaint here isn't exclusively common law, though it does touch on that in the form of breach of contract; but it also has statutory claims, as well.) > Would guys with baseball bats be a better option? Whether or not the civil court system is a better option than guys with baseball bats is an orthogonal question to whether or not it is fairly characterized as a resort to government.
- mirimir 11y agoFair enough. Civil suits currently depend on government. I find it hard to read comments about resorting to government without considering alternatives. I don't like government intrusion into personal matters. But it is nice to have a more-or-less neutral arbiter for disputes.
- bitJericho 11y agoWe're already finding that arbitration rather than courts to settle disputes puts the public at a much greater disadvantage than corporations. I don't think that's a good thing as corporations already wield much too much power. Arbitration also keeps cases from becoming public knowledge which again, not good for the public.
- dragonwriter 11y agoWell, yeah, I don't think it should be surprising that public institutions are sometimes better at serving the public interest. That's sort of the whole point of having them.
- paulddraper 11y agoThe technical solution is to identify them and sue them on technical grounds.
- yAnonymous 11y agoLeaving fake reviews is damaging Amazon's business model, so why shouldn't they be able to sue?
- dragonwriter 11y agoIt's not a technical.problem -- people using a service offered by another with conditions in violation of those conditions is a social problems for which remedies have been available for some time. It's one of the major types of things for which the civil.justice system exists.