4 ms·

Can we also ban perfume and fragrances then? They're not healthy either. /s I'd just like to see a requirement that all products have a label which lists every

by logn 11y ago

Can we also ban perfume and fragrances then? They're not healthy either. /s I'd just like to see a requirement that all products have a label which lists every ingredient, even if that label is only available online or by mailing the manufacturer. And "natural and artificial flavors" is not an ingredient. "Meets the flammability requirements of the California Bureau of Home Furnishings" is also not an ingredient.

mikeash 11y ago
I'd love comprehensive labeling requirements like this. It always makes me deeply suspicious whenever such requirements are opposed. See for example the recent controversy over labeling GMO food. The resistance against that was insane. However, labeling doesn't really help people exposed to second-hand whatnot. The smoker/vaper(/perfume-wearer) may find the ingredients to be acceptable, but what about all the people around them? And unfortunately, smokers are not the most considerate bunch.
- logn 11y ago
  I think if ingredients were disclosed that, first, harmful ingredients would be reduced or eliminated by the makers, and next the public could debate the issue of banning indoor e-cigs from a position of knowledge. If every product had to disclose this, then ideally you could recursively query for every component chemical. At that point, not only would banning e-cigs be discussed but also probably many building materials and cleaning products. And we'd be able to ban on a granular level, e.g., any product emitting more than 10 ppm diacetyl.
  - simoncion 11y ago
    > ...and next the public could debate the issue of banning indoor e-cigs from a position of knowledge. I very much want to live in a world where the public debates issues from a position of knowledge, rather than positions of deliberate ignorance motivated by tribalistic passions. :(

4 ms·

Can we also ban perfume and fragrances then? They're not healthy either. /s I'd just like to see a requirement that all products have a label which lists every

by logn 11y ago

mikeash 11y ago
I'd love comprehensive labeling requirements like this. It always makes me deeply suspicious whenever such requirements are opposed. See for example the recent controversy over labeling GMO food. The resistance against that was insane. However, labeling doesn't really help people exposed to second-hand whatnot. The smoker/vaper(/perfume-wearer) may find the ingredients to be acceptable, but what about all the people around them? And unfortunately, smokers are not the most considerate bunch.
- logn 11y ago
  I think if ingredients were disclosed that, first, harmful ingredients would be reduced or eliminated by the makers, and next the public could debate the issue of banning indoor e-cigs from a position of knowledge. If every product had to disclose this, then ideally you could recursively query for every component chemical. At that point, not only would banning e-cigs be discussed but also probably many building materials and cleaning products. And we'd be able to ban on a granular level, e.g., any product emitting more than 10 ppm diacetyl.
  - simoncion 11y ago
    > ...and next the public could debate the issue of banning indoor e-cigs from a position of knowledge. I very much want to live in a world where the public debates issues from a position of knowledge, rather than positions of deliberate ignorance motivated by tribalistic passions. :(