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> incarceration of multiple public officials and a raw deal for the city. What? How?

ksenzee 11y ago
Chicago has a talent for it.
toomuchtodo 11y ago
http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year available) in the U.S. court district that covers the Chicago area. That's way, way above the 19 convictions in Los Angeles and 13 in the Southern District of New York (Manhattan). But Houston had far and away the most pols convicted on federal corruption charges in 2013, with 83.
- platz 11y ago
  so the more convictions, the more corrupt?
  - thegreatpeter 11y ago
    I'm from Chicago. You gotta live here to understand.
    - platz 11y ago
      I'm from chicago too, so I guess I do understand by that logic. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about, in fact
      - BuckRogers 11y ago
        You are both "from Chicago"? Meaning, the city itself or the suburbs. Big difference. The suburbs are not Chicago.
        thegreatpeter 11y ago
        I live in CHICAGO.
      - pasbesoin 11y ago
        > I'm not even sure what we're arguing about, in fact Neighborhoods?
  - andrewchambers 11y ago
    There will be plenty more not getting caught
  - chiph 11y ago
    Where there's smoke, there's fire.
- pasbesoin 11y ago
  Chicago has a habit of not even negotiating good terms, while turning over public infrastructure to private enterprise in 99 year leases. A short term cash fix comes at the expense of bleeding citizens for the next 5 generations or so. The Skyway. The parking garages. The parking meters. Traffic law enforcement going to faulty and corrupt traffic camera companies, based/excused upon arguments that are suspect at best. E.g. red light cameras, particularly but not only with the yellow cycles reduce to or below the legal minimum time apparently solely to increase the number of infractions, leading to increased occurrences of accidents and particularly of more dangerous accidents. And that's not even getting into the decades of "The Machine" that politicized and monetized anything with a pocket to shake a nickle out of. Chicago has upsides. Per my first line (in my other comment here, I guess), some even find the politics to be so: As long as you enjoy it as a contact sport.
  - vasilipupkin 11y ago
    ironically, the current mayor got a big commission check from the banks for facilitating some of those bad deals.
nkrisc 11y ago
While some more recent examples have not yet ended in jail time for city officials [1][2] they have ended up in pretty bad deals for the city. [1]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-parking-meter-kickback-scheme-met-20150617-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-parking... [2]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/redlight/ct-chicago-sues-red-light-camera-firm-met-20150831-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/redlight/ct-chic...
SEJeff 11y ago
This year one of them was released, but up until then, IL was the only state in the US to have 3 previous governors serving prison time for corruption. Yeah... it really is that bad. However, most all of the corruption happens where the money is... in the City of Chicago / Cook County.
- paulddraper 11y ago
  Chicago mayors have a bad track record too.
yeukhon 11y ago
The short-lived TV series Boss would tell you about the Chicago climate. Since I don't have first hand experience living in Chicago, I cannot compare Chicago to NYC, but from the sound of comments and the TV series, Chicago seems to be pretty notorious.

Chicago has a talent for it.

http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year available) in the U.S. court district that covers the Chicago area. That's way, way above the 19 convictions in Los Angeles and 13 in the Southern District of New York (Manhattan). But Houston had far and away the most pols convicted on federal corruption charges in 2013, with 83.

platz 11y ago
so the more convictions, the more corrupt?
- thegreatpeter 11y ago
  I'm from Chicago. You gotta live here to understand.
  - platz 11y ago
    I'm from chicago too, so I guess I do understand by that logic. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about, in fact
    - BuckRogers 11y ago
      You are both "from Chicago"? Meaning, the city itself or the suburbs. Big difference. The suburbs are not Chicago.
      - thegreatpeter 11y ago
        I live in CHICAGO.
    - pasbesoin 11y ago
      > I'm not even sure what we're arguing about, in fact Neighborhoods?
- andrewchambers 11y ago
  There will be plenty more not getting caught
- chiph 11y ago
  Where there's smoke, there's fire.
pasbesoin 11y ago
Chicago has a habit of not even negotiating good terms, while turning over public infrastructure to private enterprise in 99 year leases. A short term cash fix comes at the expense of bleeding citizens for the next 5 generations or so. The Skyway. The parking garages. The parking meters. Traffic law enforcement going to faulty and corrupt traffic camera companies, based/excused upon arguments that are suspect at best. E.g. red light cameras, particularly but not only with the yellow cycles reduce to or below the legal minimum time apparently solely to increase the number of infractions, leading to increased occurrences of accidents and particularly of more dangerous accidents. And that's not even getting into the decades of "The Machine" that politicized and monetized anything with a pocket to shake a nickle out of. Chicago has upsides. Per my first line (in my other comment here, I guess), some even find the politics to be so: As long as you enjoy it as a contact sport.
- vasilipupkin 11y ago
  ironically, the current mayor got a big commission check from the banks for facilitating some of those bad deals.

nkrisc 11y ago

While some more recent examples have not yet ended in jail time for city officials [1][2] they have ended up in pretty bad deals for the city. [1]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-parking-meter-kickback-scheme-met-20150617-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-parking... [2]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/redlight/ct-chicago-sues-red-light-camera-firm-met-20150831-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/redlight/ct-chic...

SEJeff 11y ago

This year one of them was released, but up until then, IL was the only state in the US to have 3 previous governors serving prison time for corruption. Yeah... it really is that bad. However, most all of the corruption happens where the money is... in the City of Chicago / Cook County.

paulddraper 11y ago
Chicago mayors have a bad track record too.

yeukhon 11y ago

The short-lived TV series Boss would tell you about the Chicago climate. Since I don't have first hand experience living in Chicago, I cannot compare Chicago to NYC, but from the sound of comments and the TV series, Chicago seems to be pretty notorious.