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How about you actually link a somewhat-credible source claiming that, and not a bunch of commenters? Also, googling "Onement VI money laundering", the first re

How about you actually link a somewhat-credible source claiming that, and not a bunch of commenters? Also, googling "Onement VI money laundering", the first result is StormFront...nice.

Nadya 11y ago
A blue painting with a white stripe does not take an ounce of talent. Nor should that painting sell for more than the cost of paint to paint the canvas with. Believing it is a front for money laundering is far easier to believe than a fool spending millions of dollars for a color separated by a stripe of another color. There's also "Voice of Fire" [0]. Same concept but uh... red and blue instead of blue and white. Really speaks to me ya know? Don't forget Onement I [1]. The same painting, again, but brown with a yellow stripe! How does he come up with it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_Newman#/media/File:Newman-Onement_1.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_Newman#/media/File:New...
- charlesdm 11y ago
  I actually quite like those paintings. Maybe not worth $44m (to me, maybe to others), but probably a lot more than paint + canvas. From afar, it seems that being an artist is actually sort of similar to being a developer/entrepreneur. Let's say you're a technically able artist. You can create anything. But what do you actually deliver? How do you create "value" (i.e. a piece someone, somewhere, loves) As a comparison: there are plenty of developers who can reverse engineer device drivers. But knowing which driver to actually reverse engineer, that can actually deliver value to someone, that's the tricky part.
  - Nadya 11y ago
    My point is things like this are why people "outside the scene looking in" see it as nothing but millionaires losing a bet, money laundering, or some form of joke rich people pull just because they can. "Look how rich I am. I can spend $35m on an unpainted canvas." [0] I have respect for two things: Things that require such skill that other humans are not able to trivially reproduce it and things that are so damn simple that it is amazing it took us 10s/100s years to figure it out. I feel there are two schools of thought. Those who "get" modern/contemporary art and those who don't. Those who do say: "Yeah, you could have done this. But did you?" Those who don't say: "I don't think I'd get paid $10 million for a 20ft canvas covered in my own feces and I don't think any reasonable person would. So they don't." Looking back, I should have used a less criminal/more light-hearted example to try or made a better attempt at illustrating where I stand on these things. [0] At least I hope this hasn't happened and there was at least some paint on them. [1] [1] But a redditor did hang up 3 blank canvases on their wall out of laziness and others saw "art" in it. So there's that at least. http://i.imgur.com/oTKPb.png http://i.imgur.com/oTKPb.png
hokkos 11y ago
I don't have a stormfront link with this search, but it is probably a tailored result for your profile.
- tedks 11y ago
  When I open a private browsing window in Firefox, Stormfront is the first result for that search.

How about you actually link a somewhat-credible source claiming that, and not a bunch of commenters? Also, googling "Onement VI money laundering", the first result is StormFront...nice.

Nadya 11y ago

A blue painting with a white stripe does not take an ounce of talent. Nor should that painting sell for more than the cost of paint to paint the canvas with. Believing it is a front for money laundering is far easier to believe than a fool spending millions of dollars for a color separated by a stripe of another color. There's also "Voice of Fire" [0]. Same concept but uh... red and blue instead of blue and white. Really speaks to me ya know? Don't forget Onement I [1]. The same painting, again, but brown with a yellow stripe! How does he come up with it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_Newman#/media/File:Newman-Onement_1.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_Newman#/media/File:New...

charlesdm 11y ago
I actually quite like those paintings. Maybe not worth $44m (to me, maybe to others), but probably a lot more than paint + canvas. From afar, it seems that being an artist is actually sort of similar to being a developer/entrepreneur. Let's say you're a technically able artist. You can create anything. But what do you actually deliver? How do you create "value" (i.e. a piece someone, somewhere, loves) As a comparison: there are plenty of developers who can reverse engineer device drivers. But knowing which driver to actually reverse engineer, that can actually deliver value to someone, that's the tricky part.
- Nadya 11y ago
  My point is things like this are why people "outside the scene looking in" see it as nothing but millionaires losing a bet, money laundering, or some form of joke rich people pull just because they can. "Look how rich I am. I can spend $35m on an unpainted canvas." [0] I have respect for two things: Things that require such skill that other humans are not able to trivially reproduce it and things that are so damn simple that it is amazing it took us 10s/100s years to figure it out. I feel there are two schools of thought. Those who "get" modern/contemporary art and those who don't. Those who do say: "Yeah, you could have done this. But did you?" Those who don't say: "I don't think I'd get paid $10 million for a 20ft canvas covered in my own feces and I don't think any reasonable person would. So they don't." Looking back, I should have used a less criminal/more light-hearted example to try or made a better attempt at illustrating where I stand on these things. [0] At least I hope this hasn't happened and there was at least some paint on them. [1] [1] But a redditor did hang up 3 blank canvases on their wall out of laziness and others saw "art" in it. So there's that at least. http://i.imgur.com/oTKPb.png http://i.imgur.com/oTKPb.png

hokkos 11y ago

I don't have a stormfront link with this search, but it is probably a tailored result for your profile.

tedks 11y ago
When I open a private browsing window in Firefox, Stormfront is the first result for that search.