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Does the adblock/ublock etc block this as well? Am looking to use this in lieu of Google Analytics.

jdmichal 11y ago
Self-hosted means that it will be served from your own servers, and thereby your own domain. So unless your domain is on a block list, it will be loaded. EDIT: Sorry, I've been dealing with uBlock Matrix for too long, and forgot how advanced the other blockers pattern matching is. See the many responses to this for better information.
- jrgv 11y ago
  The EasyPrivacy block list contains an entry that will block the piwik.js file. Of course, when you're self-hosting, it's trivial to serve that file with a non-default name.
  - jdmichal 11y ago
    That's an interesting choice. I mean, it's not like you can hide from the web server that you are making the request. But then again, I'm assuming -- by the sheer necessity of having a JS file -- that they are collecting some additional metrics not available to the server in the request.
    - Paul-ish 11y ago
      Those filters could be in place to block the Piwik cloud service: https://piwik.pro/cloud/?pk_source=Piwik.org&pk_medium=Cloud_CTA_link&pk_campaign=PO_Cloud_Learn_More https://piwik.pro/cloud/?pk_source=Piwik.org&pk_medium=Cloud...
- username223 11y ago
  It will probably take awhile, but trackers will move to aggregating log files, and blockers will move to TOR. And the arms race continues...
  - mattab 11y ago
    Piwik for example already can import log files: http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ as an alternative to JavaScript tracking
- pdkl95 11y ago
  (my apologies for the tone - I have edited the post to try to keep it purely fact based) From EasyPrivacy[1] /piwik-$domain=~piwik.org /piwik.$script,domain=~piwik.org /piwik.php /piwik/js/*$domain=~piwik.org /piwik1. /piwik2.js /piwik_ /piwikapi.js /piwikC_ /piwikTracker. This doesn't include any renamed versions, nor does it include the numerous domain-specific variations. [1] https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
  - jdmichal 11y ago
    Slow down there guy, it was a simple mistake. I've been using uBlock Matrix for too long is all.
modoc 11y ago
No it parses web server logs, however as mentioned above it doesn't work well for very high traffic sites.
- rbinv 11y ago
  Piwik relies on client-side JavaScript for tracking, not log analysis.
  - modoc 11y ago
    http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ http://piwik.org/log-analytics/
    - rbinv 11y ago
      Sorry, I was not aware of that feature.
    - Flammy 11y ago
      They have both, most users use the client side javascript. I'm not familiar with how well the log analysis works.

Self-hosted means that it will be served from your own servers, and thereby your own domain. So unless your domain is on a block list, it will be loaded. EDIT: Sorry, I've been dealing with uBlock Matrix for too long, and forgot how advanced the other blockers pattern matching is. See the many responses to this for better information.

jrgv 11y ago
The EasyPrivacy block list contains an entry that will block the piwik.js file. Of course, when you're self-hosting, it's trivial to serve that file with a non-default name.
- jdmichal 11y ago
  That's an interesting choice. I mean, it's not like you can hide from the web server that you are making the request. But then again, I'm assuming -- by the sheer necessity of having a JS file -- that they are collecting some additional metrics not available to the server in the request.
  - Paul-ish 11y ago
    Those filters could be in place to block the Piwik cloud service: https://piwik.pro/cloud/?pk_source=Piwik.org&pk_medium=Cloud_CTA_link&pk_campaign=PO_Cloud_Learn_More https://piwik.pro/cloud/?pk_source=Piwik.org&pk_medium=Cloud...
username223 11y ago
It will probably take awhile, but trackers will move to aggregating log files, and blockers will move to TOR. And the arms race continues...
- mattab 11y ago
  Piwik for example already can import log files: http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ as an alternative to JavaScript tracking
pdkl95 11y ago
(my apologies for the tone - I have edited the post to try to keep it purely fact based) From EasyPrivacy[1] /piwik-$domain=~piwik.org /piwik.$script,domain=~piwik.org /piwik.php /piwik/js/*$domain=~piwik.org /piwik1. /piwik2.js /piwik_ /piwikapi.js /piwikC_ /piwikTracker. This doesn't include any renamed versions, nor does it include the numerous domain-specific variations. [1] https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
- jdmichal 11y ago
  Slow down there guy, it was a simple mistake. I've been using uBlock Matrix for too long is all.

modoc 11y ago

No it parses web server logs, however as mentioned above it doesn't work well for very high traffic sites.

rbinv 11y ago
Piwik relies on client-side JavaScript for tracking, not log analysis.
- modoc 11y ago
  http://piwik.org/log-analytics/ http://piwik.org/log-analytics/
  - rbinv 11y ago
    Sorry, I was not aware of that feature.
  - Flammy 11y ago
    They have both, most users use the client side javascript. I'm not familiar with how well the log analysis works.