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"It's free!"

by pistoriusp 11y ago

"It's free!"

mikeash 11y ago
That's certainly an item in the "pro" column, but there are lots of other free ones out there.
- pistoriusp 11y ago
  If someone were to gain some traction in this space I would prefer it to be a credible organisation. I long thought that this should be driven by a foundation , rather than a private enterprise, but I wanted the additional benefit of delegating the profits to a particular donation. The hooks are implemented by Apple and the data is crowd sourced. I don't see any reason why anyone should profit in this space.
  - s73v3r 11y ago
    "I don't see any reason why anyone should profit in this space." Because there's still work in putting it together and maintaining it? And because profiting from doing this means they're less likely to take money from an ad company?
s73v3r 11y ago
If it were anything other than Mozilla, wouldn't that be a Con? Because then it'd be more likely that the maintainer would take money to let ads by.
- pistoriusp 11y ago
  Well... One of the best selling paid versions, Crystal, is going to allow companies to pay for "acceptable ads." Personally, I think the people who paid for blockers were ripped off, there's nothing special or difficult in building a content blocker: 1. The majority of the value, the blocking list, it readily available and actively maintained. 2. Performance and integration into iOS is provided by Apple, you simply produce a format that Apple approves. So what are you paying for? Marketing, packaging, and giving a 3rd party control?
  - s73v3r 11y ago
    So why should anyone make a content blocker, unless they're someone with a mission to do so, like Mozilla or the EFF?
    - pistoriusp 11y ago
      I get the feeling that you have some deep seated capitalistic ideals. Do you do anything that you can't make money from? I can think of a few reasons to make a content blocker: 1. Improve privacy for users on the Internet. 2. Decrease cost and speed for people who pay for data, or have bad connections. 3. Challenge revenue streams of large corporations. 4. Fame. 5. Improve strangers lives.
      - s73v3r 11y ago
        Those are good reasons. But I don't see anything about why one shouldn't be paid for it.

"It's free!"

mikeash 11y ago

That's certainly an item in the "pro" column, but there are lots of other free ones out there.

pistoriusp 11y ago
If someone were to gain some traction in this space I would prefer it to be a credible organisation. I long thought that this should be driven by a foundation , rather than a private enterprise, but I wanted the additional benefit of delegating the profits to a particular donation. The hooks are implemented by Apple and the data is crowd sourced. I don't see any reason why anyone should profit in this space.
- s73v3r 11y ago
  "I don't see any reason why anyone should profit in this space." Because there's still work in putting it together and maintaining it? And because profiting from doing this means they're less likely to take money from an ad company?

s73v3r 11y ago

If it were anything other than Mozilla, wouldn't that be a Con? Because then it'd be more likely that the maintainer would take money to let ads by.

pistoriusp 11y ago
Well... One of the best selling paid versions, Crystal, is going to allow companies to pay for "acceptable ads." Personally, I think the people who paid for blockers were ripped off, there's nothing special or difficult in building a content blocker: 1. The majority of the value, the blocking list, it readily available and actively maintained. 2. Performance and integration into iOS is provided by Apple, you simply produce a format that Apple approves. So what are you paying for? Marketing, packaging, and giving a 3rd party control?
- s73v3r 11y ago
  So why should anyone make a content blocker, unless they're someone with a mission to do so, like Mozilla or the EFF?
  - pistoriusp 11y ago
    I get the feeling that you have some deep seated capitalistic ideals. Do you do anything that you can't make money from? I can think of a few reasons to make a content blocker: 1. Improve privacy for users on the Internet. 2. Decrease cost and speed for people who pay for data, or have bad connections. 3. Challenge revenue streams of large corporations. 4. Fame. 5. Improve strangers lives.
    - s73v3r 11y ago
      Those are good reasons. But I don't see anything about why one shouldn't be paid for it.