> One thing I don't get from this argument is: does he consider programming a profession? If an engineer that programs, probably. But not likely programming by

> One thing I don't get from this argument is: does he consider programming a profession? If an engineer that programs, probably. But not likely programming by itself. When I worked at an integration company (industry contractor), we had to be careful about the language we used on timesheets. We were strictly forbidden from using "engineer" (verb) since we were not an engineering firm.