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Here is the actual study - it is an interesting read: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001078145 http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=600010781

Here is the actual study - it is an interesting read: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001078145 http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001078145 In a nutshell; the LTE transmission cycles on and off on a regular cadence without sensing if the channel is clear. This tramples over the 802.11 frames and results in higher utilization of the medium than that which is claimed by Qualcomm

Someone1234 11y ago
Your link doesn't work by the way.
- spydum 11y ago
  works fine here?
  - itake 11y ago
    not here :(
  - chadzawistowski 11y ago
    I get "The requested object does not exist on this server."
  - stevesearer 11y ago
    Yeah weird, works for me too. Here is it on Slideshare though too: http://www.slideshare.net/zahidtg/15-105-06112015-google-inc-60001078145 http://www.slideshare.net/zahidtg/15-105-06112015-google-inc...
- sp332 11y ago
  It didn't work for me either. Maybe it times out? This works, at least for now: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:https%3A%2F%2Fapps.fcc.gov%2Fecfs%2Fdocument%2Fview%3Fid%3D60001078145 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cach...
jhallenworld 11y ago
Well the good news is that LTE-U appears to be for the 5 GHz band, not 2.4 GHz. You would think that it would be easier to put micro cells in the home gateways (using the bands they already own) vs. rolling out a new capabilities on the 5 GHz band in the client (I mean won't they have to wait for Apple/Android to switch to a new generation of chips?). I guess the bad feeling is that the unlicensed bands would be used for a subscription service, whereas WiFi is controlled by the consumer (though in practice each ISP ends up using WiFi).
- homulilly 11y ago
  considering 2.4ghz is basically unusable where i live this isn't really good news.
  - camkego 11y ago
    This.
- qb45 11y ago
  > Well the good news is that LTE-U appears to be for the 5 GHz band I worry that it could make the 5G band look like 2.4G looks now. I too like the idea of a piece of spectrum used mainly by consumers or small businesses and not saturated by the big commercial gorillas. If today they are desperate enough to consider running their precious services on the wild unregulated bands then sooner or later they will be desperate enough to squeeze every last bit out of them. Another thing is that once they are allowed in and their bottom line starts to depend on WiFi bands, they will fight to the death to stay there forever and only grow.
  - silverfox17 11y ago
    Where I live we have 2 WISPs - the 5GHz band already looks like the 2.4 band. This would potentially just wreck internet service for thousands of people.
    - simoncion 11y ago
yuhong 11y ago
I think the worst thing are the 802.11 frame errors that results.

Someone1234 11y ago

Your link doesn't work by the way.

spydum 11y ago
works fine here?
- itake 11y ago
  not here :(
- chadzawistowski 11y ago
  I get "The requested object does not exist on this server."
- stevesearer 11y ago
  Yeah weird, works for me too. Here is it on Slideshare though too: http://www.slideshare.net/zahidtg/15-105-06112015-google-inc-60001078145 http://www.slideshare.net/zahidtg/15-105-06112015-google-inc...
sp332 11y ago
It didn't work for me either. Maybe it times out? This works, at least for now: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:https%3A%2F%2Fapps.fcc.gov%2Fecfs%2Fdocument%2Fview%3Fid%3D60001078145 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cach...

jhallenworld 11y ago

Well the good news is that LTE-U appears to be for the 5 GHz band, not 2.4 GHz. You would think that it would be easier to put micro cells in the home gateways (using the bands they already own) vs. rolling out a new capabilities on the 5 GHz band in the client (I mean won't they have to wait for Apple/Android to switch to a new generation of chips?). I guess the bad feeling is that the unlicensed bands would be used for a subscription service, whereas WiFi is controlled by the consumer (though in practice each ISP ends up using WiFi).

homulilly 11y ago
considering 2.4ghz is basically unusable where i live this isn't really good news.
- camkego 11y ago
  This.
qb45 11y ago
> Well the good news is that LTE-U appears to be for the 5 GHz band I worry that it could make the 5G band look like 2.4G looks now. I too like the idea of a piece of spectrum used mainly by consumers or small businesses and not saturated by the big commercial gorillas. If today they are desperate enough to consider running their precious services on the wild unregulated bands then sooner or later they will be desperate enough to squeeze every last bit out of them. Another thing is that once they are allowed in and their bottom line starts to depend on WiFi bands, they will fight to the death to stay there forever and only grow.
- silverfox17 11y ago
  Where I live we have 2 WISPs - the 5GHz band already looks like the 2.4 band. This would potentially just wreck internet service for thousands of people.
  - simoncion 11y ago

yuhong 11y ago

I think the worst thing are the 802.11 frame errors that results.