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Hey there-- I work at Nylas. We've structured our business to... actually have a business. Our team spent the first year selling APIs to developers [1] which a

by grinich 11y ago

Hey there-- I work at Nylas. We've structured our business to... actually have a business. Our team spent the first year selling APIs to developers [1] which already power lots of paid apps. The N1 mail app we released two months ago[2] follows this and will have paid features next year. Plus both are open source free software, and quite popular on GitHub. [3] [1] https://nylas.com/features/ https://nylas.com/features/ [2] https://nylas.com/n1 https://nylas.com/n1 [3] http://github.com/nylas/ http://github.com/nylas/

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jordigh 11y ago
Can you compare yourself to Mailpile? I want an email client (and maybe server) that is privacy-conscious and easy to configure. Are you two completely different projects?
- grinich 11y ago
  We're two totally different projects. We focus on a lot of stuff in addition to privacy (like great design).
  - jordigh 11y ago
    I understand what Mailpile is. It's a self-hosted email web client. What is Nylas? The website doesn't seem to be written for me, but for PHBs. Apparently you have great business, design, and APIs, but what is it that those things do? Are you an email client? A server? A webmail service? What makes you different from Gmail or from Mailpile?
    - grinich 11y ago
      Nylas is two things: 1. APIs for developers that replace IMAP/SMTP/Exchange. Use this to build any app that integrates with a user's mailbox, calendar, or address book. 2. A new extensible email app, built on web technologies (Chromium+NodeJS). This is called N1 and was released about 2 months ago. We sell the APIs as an infrastructure business (like AWS).
ckluis 11y ago
I’d pay to have delete actually delete email completely (not just from my inbox, but from all as well).
- softawre 11y ago
  What?
  - Estragon 11y ago
    I think he means he'd like to be able to irretrievably destroy all records of an email.
    - ckluis 11y ago
      Yeah right now it labels the email with “trash” in the all folder instead of actually deleting it.
- azinman2 11y ago
  @softawre: He's asking for it to delete on the receivers side too. I think certain enterprise-y email solutions have this, but there's no way to have that happen in the distributed email ecosystem unless all your messages were just links to a website that could delete the content centrally, or similarly, jpg's of rendered text that were somehow forced to be remotely fetched each time.
  - ghaff 11y ago
    And, indeed, that sort of functionality runs counter to the idea that once something has been sent to me, it's "mine" to keep/delete/whatever without someone else having the ability to change or delete it without my permission.
    - mitchty 11y ago
      You have no idea how much some managers love this idea. I know I had a former boss that loved to try using the outlook "unsend the stupid thing i sent" feature. Little did he know the cients could turn that bit of functionality off. He hated when we replied to the emails he had "purged".
segphault 11y ago
This is the first I've heard of N1. It looks appealing, but after following the links and looking at it on GitHub, it seems like installing the sync server for self hosting is still non-trivial. I went to the "releases" tab on GitHub and it looks like the last one was in 2014. I see things in the GitHub repo that suggest there are Dockerfiles and Debian packages, but I don't see an actual Debian package repository or an entry on the Docker Hub. Is the recommended way to use it today just cloning the git repo? Or is there a stable release of the sync server that's tested/known to work with the binaries of the client?
- grinich 11y ago
  Yep, just clone the git repo and set up on Debian (like Ubuntu 12.04) and run setup.sh. Most developers run it in a VM. We don't have "releases" because we are constantly releasing to production. Check out the `production` branch on GitHub for what we're running right now. Usually it's just a handful of hours behind master (at most).

by grinich 11y ago

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jordigh 11y ago

Can you compare yourself to Mailpile? I want an email client (and maybe server) that is privacy-conscious and easy to configure. Are you two completely different projects?

grinich 11y ago
We're two totally different projects. We focus on a lot of stuff in addition to privacy (like great design).
- jordigh 11y ago
  I understand what Mailpile is. It's a self-hosted email web client. What is Nylas? The website doesn't seem to be written for me, but for PHBs. Apparently you have great business, design, and APIs, but what is it that those things do? Are you an email client? A server? A webmail service? What makes you different from Gmail or from Mailpile?
  - grinich 11y ago
    Nylas is two things: 1. APIs for developers that replace IMAP/SMTP/Exchange. Use this to build any app that integrates with a user's mailbox, calendar, or address book. 2. A new extensible email app, built on web technologies (Chromium+NodeJS). This is called N1 and was released about 2 months ago. We sell the APIs as an infrastructure business (like AWS).

ckluis 11y ago

I’d pay to have delete actually delete email completely (not just from my inbox, but from all as well).

softawre 11y ago
What?
- Estragon 11y ago
  I think he means he'd like to be able to irretrievably destroy all records of an email.
  - ckluis 11y ago
    Yeah right now it labels the email with “trash” in the all folder instead of actually deleting it.
azinman2 11y ago
@softawre: He's asking for it to delete on the receivers side too. I think certain enterprise-y email solutions have this, but there's no way to have that happen in the distributed email ecosystem unless all your messages were just links to a website that could delete the content centrally, or similarly, jpg's of rendered text that were somehow forced to be remotely fetched each time.
- ghaff 11y ago
  And, indeed, that sort of functionality runs counter to the idea that once something has been sent to me, it's "mine" to keep/delete/whatever without someone else having the ability to change or delete it without my permission.
  - mitchty 11y ago
    You have no idea how much some managers love this idea. I know I had a former boss that loved to try using the outlook "unsend the stupid thing i sent" feature. Little did he know the cients could turn that bit of functionality off. He hated when we replied to the emails he had "purged".

segphault 11y ago

This is the first I've heard of N1. It looks appealing, but after following the links and looking at it on GitHub, it seems like installing the sync server for self hosting is still non-trivial. I went to the "releases" tab on GitHub and it looks like the last one was in 2014. I see things in the GitHub repo that suggest there are Dockerfiles and Debian packages, but I don't see an actual Debian package repository or an entry on the Docker Hub. Is the recommended way to use it today just cloning the git repo? Or is there a stable release of the sync server that's tested/known to work with the binaries of the client?

grinich 11y ago
Yep, just clone the git repo and set up on Debian (like Ubuntu 12.04) and run setup.sh. Most developers run it in a VM. We don't have "releases" because we are constantly releasing to production. Check out the `production` branch on GitHub for what we're running right now. Usually it's just a handful of hours behind master (at most).