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>Hitler >Socialist Just because the Nazis called themselves National Socialists doesn't make them socialists. Communists and socialists were the first the Naz
by Kristine1975 11y ago
>Hitler
>Socialist
Just because the Nazis called themselves National Socialists doesn't make them socialists. Communists and socialists were the first the Nazis sent to concentration camps.
- gherkin0 11y agoI think that argument is pretty weak. Many of the millions that the Soviets sent to the gulags were socialists and communists, but that action doesn't make the Soviets or those they imprisoned and murdered not-communist or not-socialist. Communists and socialists have a long histories of bloody internecine conflicts.
- nitrogen 11y agoCountries have long histories of bloody conflicts, regardless of ideology.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y agoWhy are you getting downvoted for this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history You'd have to be somewhat detached from the historical record to seriously suggest that all of these, or even a majority, were the result of socialism.
- protomyth 11y agoGetting rid of your competition is a pretty standard tactic when you are taking over. The National Socialists were socialists.
- Kristine1975 11y ago>The National Socialists were socialists Proof?
- protomyth 11y agowell, I cannot discount the name, but this speech https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitler02241941.html https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitle... would indicate such
- Kristine1975 11y agoSo essentially Hitler considered himself to be/pretended in his speeches to be a socialist, although not a Marxist socialist, but one who rejects big banking (read: DEM JEWS!1!). According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism: >Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production Given that the Nazis privatized a lot of publicly owned companies such as the Deutsche Bank and the Deutsche Reichsbahn, I don't think the Nazis were socialists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany has more on Hitler's economic views.
- gotchange 11y agoThe socialist component in the Nazi ideology was almost entirely economical and not social. Nazis on social issues were as nationalistic and minorities-hating as any far-right group if not worse. It's just that some RW people love to distort the reality to score cheap political points.
- yummyfajitas 11y agoSome of the Nazi party's 25 tenets: Abolishing capital income, confiscation of war profits, nationalization of all trusts, a generous increase in old age pensions, communalization of large stores, nationalization and redistribution of farmland and nationalization of schools. http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.... Whether this meets your definition of "socialism" is mainly a function of how narrowly you define the word. But they were certainly a very economically left wing party.