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Socialist regimes have been te most suppressive in peoples history. Think about Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, etc… Socialism kills [0]. Or a more eloquent an
by wsc981 11y ago
Socialist regimes have been te most suppressive in peoples history. Think about Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, etc…
Socialism kills [0]. Or a more eloquent and less extreme read would be "The Road to Serfdom" by F. A. Hayek
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[0]: http://jim.com/killingfields.html http://jim.com/killingfields.html
- stefantalpalaru 11y agoThis is not extreme left, it's center-left. The distinction is important, otherwise we'd reduce everything to communism and fascism.
- swsieber 11y agoWhat's terrible is that we only put politicians on a single axis.
- stefantalpalaru 11y agoIt's in our nature to simplify things. Even using 2 axes like Political Compass is a simplification.
- nova 11y agoI used to like the Nolan chart too, but recently I've been thinking that even 2 axes is overfitting. Politics is so complicated that only a very simple model has predictive value, even with huge variance. I think a single axis order-disorder is the best we can do to talk in general terms.
- swsieber 11y agoIIRC at the convention that wrote the constitution there were about 5 axis involved. I can't remember what they were though. Any insight on it would be appreciated.
- Kristine1975 11y ago>Hitler >Socialist Just because the Nazis called themselves National Socialists doesn't make them socialists. Communists and socialists were the first the Nazis sent to concentration camps.
- gherkin0 11y agoI think that argument is pretty weak. Many of the millions that the Soviets sent to the gulags were socialists and communists, but that action doesn't make the Soviets or those they imprisoned and murdered not-communist or not-socialist. Communists and socialists have a long histories of bloody internecine conflicts.
- nitrogen 11y agoCountries have long histories of bloody conflicts, regardless of ideology.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y agoWhy are you getting downvoted for this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history You'd have to be somewhat detached from the historical record to seriously suggest that all of these, or even a majority, were the result of socialism.
- protomyth 11y agoGetting rid of your competition is a pretty standard tactic when you are taking over. The National Socialists were socialists.
- Kristine1975 11y ago>The National Socialists were socialists Proof?
- protomyth 11y ago
- dang 11y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10690035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10690035 and marked it off-topic.