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cities like chicago have near 3% property taxes to pay current teachers average salaries over $75k/yr. with health, with vacation, with summers, with cola, with
by lintiness 11y ago
cities like chicago have near 3% property taxes to pay current teachers average salaries over $75k/yr. with health, with vacation, with summers, with cola, with lifetime guaranteed pensions of 70%+. school admins routinely take home $125k+. when are we going to stop with the nonsense that teachers save the world while starving in their yugos?
- coldpie 11y agoWhen it stops being true, I imagine. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary
- lintiness 11y agohttps://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d11/tables/dt11_083.asp https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d11/tables/dt11_083.asp how about using a real source. payscale.com?
- coldpie 11y agoSo bizarre that you used a specific outlier case of $75-125k, more than twice what the actual average is. And given that your outlier exists, I wonder what that says about teacher salaries on the lower end of the bell curve given the average of $55k.
- lintiness 11y agono idea what you're talking about. your number fits a ba with zero experience on a national average. teachers make a lot more with even limited experience in big population areas (with politicians on the dole) with corresponding higher cost of living (ie. chicago, where i stated).
- coldpie 11y agoI'm saying your original example was specifically crafted to make people think teachers are well-paid ("average salaries over $75k... school admins routinely take home $125k") by cherry-picking a specific outlier. When I called you on it, you found real data showing the average is actually $55k, which means many salaries are even lower than that. Now you've backpedaled so far as to say the average teacher salary is roughly equivalent to "a ba with zero experience," which I would categorize as criminally underpaid for a position so crucial to the upbringing of our country's children.
- lintiness 11y agoyour posted numbers were garbage; mine weren't: (http://www.ccsd59.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Administrator-and-Teacher-Salary-and-Benefit-Report-2014.pdf http://www.ccsd59.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Administrat...). chicago isn't an outlier; it's a big city with a higher cost of living. real costs are hidden behind 'salaries', a term managed by the public unions to understate real comp. 8 months a year / health / sick / retirement age (55 typical) / pension. emotional appeals like your's are what have allowed the public unions to rape the average family (both in the classrooms where they fail, and in the pocketbook where public school teachers are doing their finest work).