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French guy here. Our government members are totally not looking to protect our liberties. Since the terrorists attacks on Nov13, more than 2500 police raids, at
by bvr22 11y ago
French guy here.
Our government members are totally not looking to protect our liberties.
Since the terrorists attacks on Nov13, more than 2500 police raids, at any hour in day or night, have taken place. Most of the time, they found nothing. La Quadrature du Net, a frnech association for online civil rights, tried to list some of the abuse here : https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement (link in french).
When our Assembly voted the extension of emergency state, our Prime Minister Manuel Valls told the Assembly "We know this law does not conform to our constitution, but [the governement] asks you not to seize the Constitutional Coucil and vote it". Six people refused to vote it. Among them, 3 were members of prime minister's party, and they have been publicly summoned to the party's siege on december 16, just after the local elections, "to explain themselves and receive intern sanctions".
France is no longer a democratic country, that's why so many people voted for Marine LePen's party last sunday. A lot of people are juste bored or frustrated by our politics, so they are seeking for some people able to change that. Even if that means electing a Nazi leader.
- GrumpyBen 11y ago> Most of the time, they found nothing They found 230 illegal weapons. That's not what I call nothing...
- Squarel 11y ago2500 raids, 230 illegal weapons? We could say "Oh, this means there were almost 10 illegal weapons at every raid", but, they were not evenly distributed, just like raiding every house in a dodgy estate will turn up a lot of illegal items, but most of them will be centered in a small % of properties, so, yeah, for 2500 raids, most of them will have returned nothing.
- vidarh 11y agoNot almost 10 illegal weapons at every raid. More than 10 raids for every illegal weapon. Otherwise I agree with you they're likely not to have been evenly distributed, so you can assume there were far more than 10 raids for every raids that produced one or more weapons.
- amyjess 11y ago> France is no longer a democratic country "Democratic" and "liberal" are not synonyms. They often go together, but they don't have to: there is indeed such a thing as an "illiberal democracy" [0], and a bunch of them exist already (e.g. Singapore, Russia). France is still democratic, though it's taken a serious turn towards illiberal recently. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiberal_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiberal_democracy
- JHSheridan 11y agoDo you have more info or a link on the Manuel Valls quote? I'm trying to find more context online, but having trouble.