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During the SOPA/PIPA legislation, multiple websites went dark to protest against the legislation. People in HN applauded it. Why is it now childish for an opens

by song 11y ago

During the SOPA/PIPA legislation, multiple websites went dark to protest against the legislation. People in HN applauded it. Why is it now childish for an opensource software developer to express his disappointment in this way? What is the difference? The FN is a fascist party, as an immigrant living in France the author is concerned about this development and I understand him. Plus, honestly for people who voted FN, they might as well follow their "thoughts" (prejudices) through and stop using software made by hated immigrants. As a French person, I'm ashamed that this country will now join the ranks of Italy and Austria as a country that elected fascists leaders.

zapu 11y ago
Probably different people were applauding it then from the people that call this childish now? HN is not an singular entity, an overmind made of people who think exactly the same.
- song 11y ago
  True, but there were very few people calling it childish then (I don't remember any then) whereas in this thread there's a sizable minority that calls it childish.
  - DougN7 11y ago
    Unfortunately, I think we'll find HN is just about as much hive-mind as Reddit...
thiht 11y ago
>The FN is a fascist party No it's not, if it was it would have been forbidden long ago according to french laws. I suggest you check the definition of fascism, you'll be surprised who currently fits in the definition in France.
- LBarret 11y ago
  It is not forbidden, but it was condemned many times including for talk about concentration camps or jews. For a long time, it was borderline. And It has a very dark history: - During the Algeria war, its founder (JM Le Pen), then in the army, used torture. - In the 90', the security force of the FN (Skinheads) killed a man (throwing him in the Seine). Nowadays, its communication is way less agressive but it is the same core. Currently, of its voters : - 92% thinks there are too many non-white people in france - 36% of its voters thinks some races are superior to others. FN played its card well : it convinced many french that their current economic distress is caused by immigrants, Europe and anything coming from outside. Its political agenda is a big pile of fantasy about the France of 50' (powerful and white). And its economic program is laughable. Well, that would be fun if it wasn't so serious and so sad.
RightWingRabble 11y ago
> During the SOPA/PIPA legislation, multiple websites went dark to protest against the legislation. People in HN applauded it. Why is it now childish for an opensource software developer to express his disappointment in this way? If multiple websites asked you who you voted for in the last election and then went dark if you said "McCain", then you would have a point. Protesting harmful legislation is one thing. Refusing to do business with people based on their politics is another.
makomk 11y ago
SOPA and PIPA endangered the profitability of the tech industry. FN merely hate non-white people, and that's far less objectionable.

by song 11y ago

zapu 11y ago

Probably different people were applauding it then from the people that call this childish now? HN is not an singular entity, an overmind made of people who think exactly the same.

song 11y ago
True, but there were very few people calling it childish then (I don't remember any then) whereas in this thread there's a sizable minority that calls it childish.
- DougN7 11y ago
  Unfortunately, I think we'll find HN is just about as much hive-mind as Reddit...

thiht 11y ago

>The FN is a fascist party No it's not, if it was it would have been forbidden long ago according to french laws. I suggest you check the definition of fascism, you'll be surprised who currently fits in the definition in France.

LBarret 11y ago
It is not forbidden, but it was condemned many times including for talk about concentration camps or jews. For a long time, it was borderline. And It has a very dark history: - During the Algeria war, its founder (JM Le Pen), then in the army, used torture. - In the 90', the security force of the FN (Skinheads) killed a man (throwing him in the Seine). Nowadays, its communication is way less agressive but it is the same core. Currently, of its voters : - 92% thinks there are too many non-white people in france - 36% of its voters thinks some races are superior to others. FN played its card well : it convinced many french that their current economic distress is caused by immigrants, Europe and anything coming from outside. Its political agenda is a big pile of fantasy about the France of 50' (powerful and white). And its economic program is laughable. Well, that would be fun if it wasn't so serious and so sad.

RightWingRabble 11y ago

> During the SOPA/PIPA legislation, multiple websites went dark to protest against the legislation. People in HN applauded it. Why is it now childish for an opensource software developer to express his disappointment in this way? If multiple websites asked you who you voted for in the last election and then went dark if you said "McCain", then you would have a point. Protesting harmful legislation is one thing. Refusing to do business with people based on their politics is another.

makomk 11y ago

SOPA and PIPA endangered the profitability of the tech industry. FN merely hate non-white people, and that's far less objectionable.