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>What happens next? More importantly, what should happen? >So, we punish Ann for moving by reducing her salary? I don't see a problem with reducing Ann's pay.

>What happens next? More importantly, what should happen? >So, we punish Ann for moving by reducing her salary? I don't see a problem with reducing Ann's pay. If rent is only $300 instead of $3000 the pay should reflect that. If that sounds like a problem, imagine that the company pays rent or for hotel stay for visiting employees. If hotels cost $400 a night in SV and $40 a night in Argentina, should the company pay $400 a night in Argentina in order to 'equalize the pay'?

solidsnack9000 11y ago
> I don't see a problem with reducing Ann's pay. It does seem odd that an employer can use a person's lifestyle as a basis for adjusting their pay. Almost a violation of privacy.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  It is and it wouldn't. An employer that would adjust their rate downward if someone's living conditions change would lose their best people rapidly. If you want 'presence' in a certain location you'll be paying market rates and those already factor in what it costs to live there.
- iopq 11y ago
  Someone in silicon valley might have local job offers for said $170,000 which will not be there if she moves away (let's say those offers are NOT remote work)
- johnnyo 11y ago
  I was surprised they explicitly paid more based on the number of dependents. That seems odd, since it seems completely irrelevant.
- rtpg 11y ago
  It does look bad in the "reducing salary" aspect, but if you're asking someone to come to SF I sure hope there's a major premium so you can afford your half-an-appartment
  - solidsnack9000 11y ago
    If you're asking them to move to SF, yes. But if they choose to move to SF...should they get a raise?
mikeash 11y ago
Why should the pay reflect a change in rent? Would the same thing apply for moving to a different neighborhood of the same city? A different apartment/house in the same neighborhood? Gaining or losing a roommate?
- iopq 11y ago
  It's not a change in rent, it's a change in what the competition is offering.
  - mikeash 11y ago
    The comment I replied to said "If rent is only $300 instead of $3000 the pay should reflect that."
    - iopq 11y ago
      They have to offer more because nobody would work in a job that doesn't pay the bills.
      - mikeash 11y ago
        Huh? The question is what happens when you move from an expensive place to a cheap place. If your bills go down, should your pay go down?
        iopq 11y ago
        Of course, because your local competitors pay out less. Everyone in a cheaper place gives a smaller salary. Even inside the US, Texas pays less than Silicon Valley. If you move to Texas, and your company says "we will pay you less because of your location" you can't really argue against that logic. Because if you tried to find a job in Texas, you'd get paid the same amount your old company is offering you.

solidsnack9000 11y ago

> I don't see a problem with reducing Ann's pay. It does seem odd that an employer can use a person's lifestyle as a basis for adjusting their pay. Almost a violation of privacy.

jacquesm 11y ago
It is and it wouldn't. An employer that would adjust their rate downward if someone's living conditions change would lose their best people rapidly. If you want 'presence' in a certain location you'll be paying market rates and those already factor in what it costs to live there.
iopq 11y ago
Someone in silicon valley might have local job offers for said $170,000 which will not be there if she moves away (let's say those offers are NOT remote work)
johnnyo 11y ago
I was surprised they explicitly paid more based on the number of dependents. That seems odd, since it seems completely irrelevant.
rtpg 11y ago
It does look bad in the "reducing salary" aspect, but if you're asking someone to come to SF I sure hope there's a major premium so you can afford your half-an-appartment
- solidsnack9000 11y ago
  If you're asking them to move to SF, yes. But if they choose to move to SF...should they get a raise?

mikeash 11y ago

Why should the pay reflect a change in rent? Would the same thing apply for moving to a different neighborhood of the same city? A different apartment/house in the same neighborhood? Gaining or losing a roommate?

iopq 11y ago
It's not a change in rent, it's a change in what the competition is offering.
- mikeash 11y ago
  The comment I replied to said "If rent is only $300 instead of $3000 the pay should reflect that."
  - iopq 11y ago
    They have to offer more because nobody would work in a job that doesn't pay the bills.
    - mikeash 11y ago
      Huh? The question is what happens when you move from an expensive place to a cheap place. If your bills go down, should your pay go down?
      - iopq 11y ago
        Of course, because your local competitors pay out less. Everyone in a cheaper place gives a smaller salary. Even inside the US, Texas pays less than Silicon Valley. If you move to Texas, and your company says "we will pay you less because of your location" you can't really argue against that logic. Because if you tried to find a job in Texas, you'd get paid the same amount your old company is offering you.