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This is the smartest thing I've heard her say. To advance a successful agenda in the middle east, the US needs to wage a subversive culture war, not a physical

This is the smartest thing I've heard her say. To advance a successful agenda in the middle east, the US needs to wage a subversive culture war, not a physical one. If you could focus on one core idea that would end suffering, bloodshed and violence in this region it would be to nurture the spread competing ideologies (eg.atheism) to the religious one. Unfortunately, America is never going to do that, and this is why the middle east won't be disrupted, and why it hasn't happened in the last 50 years. It would be good if some other western country's propaganda dept would pick up this torch, but they'd never get it done as good as your average silicon valley growth marketer could.

acqq 11y ago
It would not even have to be "atheism," just having the courage to start talking about that the West in fact has what it has because it stopped taking religion too seriously. Which is hard to imagine being said from any influential politician in the US. And there are, as we would see them today, some gory things in the Bible. But not even most extreme international organization of believer fighters tries to "do all what's in the Bible." Not so with the Quran and Surah, only because the doctrine, even promoted by the US "close friends" like Saudi Arabia, is that these "words of God" are to be taken very seriously. And there is really a lot of explicit intolerance in these basic Islamic texts. Which is also unimaginable to be admitted, even if it's true. Humpty-Dumpty politics. And another thing politicians would never say is "OK we'll really stop doing what we're doing, supporting the guys "on our side" no matter what they do." Basically Hillary just hopes "somebody" would invent how to let the big politicians do just what they did up to now, and not lose any sponsor, but to cause change, but only to the taste of them. Win against ISIS but not admit that Libya is much worse since the West did what it did, and Assad is not allowed to stay too, just because "we" don't like him, and that Syria remains "a kind of Libya" "we" don't care too... And "we" will never excuse to anybody for what "we" made of Iraq. Or that "we" actually like those Islamic religious guys making wars because that's always "opportunity" for "us." And when you're there, invent how to make energy out of nothing while keeping the rich rich and the poor poor. And how to eat sugar and fat indefinitely and remain thin. And...

acqq 11y ago

It would not even have to be "atheism," just having the courage to start talking about that the West in fact has what it has because it stopped taking religion too seriously. Which is hard to imagine being said from any influential politician in the US. And there are, as we would see them today, some gory things in the Bible. But not even most extreme international organization of believer fighters tries to "do all what's in the Bible." Not so with the Quran and Surah, only because the doctrine, even promoted by the US "close friends" like Saudi Arabia, is that these "words of God" are to be taken very seriously. And there is really a lot of explicit intolerance in these basic Islamic texts. Which is also unimaginable to be admitted, even if it's true. Humpty-Dumpty politics. And another thing politicians would never say is "OK we'll really stop doing what we're doing, supporting the guys "on our side" no matter what they do." Basically Hillary just hopes "somebody" would invent how to let the big politicians do just what they did up to now, and not lose any sponsor, but to cause change, but only to the taste of them. Win against ISIS but not admit that Libya is much worse since the West did what it did, and Assad is not allowed to stay too, just because "we" don't like him, and that Syria remains "a kind of Libya" "we" don't care too... And "we" will never excuse to anybody for what "we" made of Iraq. Or that "we" actually like those Islamic religious guys making wars because that's always "opportunity" for "us." And when you're there, invent how to make energy out of nothing while keeping the rich rich and the poor poor. And how to eat sugar and fat indefinitely and remain thin. And...