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You're right - it is sickening. And it's increasingly becoming this elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about. I used to be totally in the bandwagon of "
by zensavona 11y ago
You're right - it is sickening. And it's increasingly becoming this elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about.
I used to be totally in the bandwagon of "those annoying vegans trying to make people feel bad for eating meat". Now I agree - why shouldn't you shame someone for doing something bad? Buying and consuming animal products is bad for everyone involved: bad for the person eating them, the environment and the animals. We would shame corporations for polluting the environment and we would shame a person for abusing their pets in the way factory farming does animals, so why is it ok if they do it by proxy?
I read a nutrition book called "The China Study" about 6 months ago and it was the push I needed to seriously give veganism a try. I don't deny it, I love the taste of certain meats and at times I do miss them and I do occasionally still eat fish (sushi is my favourite food).
I'm feeling better in every sense. I was surprised to see that my body composition is actually better now, even though my protein intake is markedly lower (I was 95kg and ~14% body fat before and am 87kg and ~10% now, judging BF% with calipers so not exactly precise), my weightlifting strength is up, my cardio endurance is improved, my skin is _hugely_ clearer and I anecdotally seem to have more energy - I definitely feel less lethargic after eating. My biggest concern was loss of muscle mass given lower protein intake, somehow I am looking better and feeling stronger than before. I'm eating around 3-600g of carbs per day (!) which is all coming from whole fruit and veg, which seemed totally ridiculous to me before coming from a close-to-paleo high fat high protein diet.
FWIW I'm a 22 y/o male and consume around 3-4000 cals/day and work out 5-6 times per week so YMMV.
- CuriouslyC 11y agoDriving a car increases your risk of death via accident by an astronomical amount. Shame on you! The only leg vegans have to stand on in the argument against meat is the cruelty occurring in factory farms. That cruelty isn't inherent in the process of raising and slaughtering animals though. Not to mention life in the wild can be pretty rough as well.
- barrkel 11y agoI don't eat for health reasons - I eat because I'm hungry and good food tastes great. Lunch and dinner are the two best parts of my day. On birthdays of myself and my partner, we go out and eat a tasting menu with matched drinks at one of London's best restaurants. On holiday, probably the most enjoyable part of the day is eating local food with local wine. Food including meat is not something I would want to live without. Meat is one of the best reasons to be alive, from a hedonistic perspective.
- brahmwg 11y agoLifelong vegetarian here, and I can say from my experience I feel healthier and more fit on a mostly plant based diet, with some animal protein (eggs). I did take a year when I was 22 and experimented with eating meat, and I will still occasionally cheat and eat a bit of animal flesh here or there. Maybe not the right diet for everyone but works for me and you too it seems.
- cdcarter 11y agoIf you are a lifelong vegetarian how can you even anecdotally say you feel healthier?
- brahmwg 11y agoBecause I spent a year eating meat regularly specifically to see if I would feel healthier or perform better in exercise, and ultimately found I felt better eating mostly plants so switched back. Still eat some animals rarely so I am not a puritan veggie.