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no matter what some leftist people might want to say This ridiculous polarised and incorrect caricature of "left" and "right" is not only ridiculous, but also

no matter what some leftist people might want to say This ridiculous polarised and incorrect caricature of "left" and "right" is not only ridiculous, but also damaging. You don't even live in the US, so you've no excuse. It's the rightists who want lots of foreign immigrants, because it means that businesses have lower costs of employees. No, wait, it's the leftists who cause terrorism because their policy of free-thought and individual liberty creates closed minds. No, wait, it's the rightists, because their belief in the free movement of capital causes... no, wait, leftists are in favour of... goodness me, it's almost as if reducing a complex situation, with roots going back decades, to two caricatures of political thought that only exist in the lazy media is useless.

wsc981 11y ago
As you correctly noticed, I don't live in the USA. I live in The Netherlands. Our concepts of the left and right are different than in your country. I mentioned "leftist" from my Dutch perspective.
- EliRivers 11y ago
  And now you're just assuming that I don't know what "leftist" means. I don't live in the US, but you just assumed I did. Lazy, lazy, lazy. That's my point. Anyone who disagrees with the wall? They must be "leftist". Filthy filthy leftist. That's a nice easy way for me to label them and now I can disregard them because I've split the world into two groups, and obviously I'm in the good group. The rightists are pro-business and pro-labout movement, so it's the rightists who disagree with the wall. But wait, it's the rightists who are willing to give up liberties (especially someone else's) for security, so it's the rightists who want the wall. OMG, suddenly it turns out that simply saying "leftists" want this thing and "rightists" want the opposite is so simplified that it's simply incorrect, and the world is a lot more complicated. Start thinking for yourself.
gozur88 11y ago
>This ridiculous polarised and incorrect caricature of "left" and "right" is not only ridiculous, but also damaging. You don't even live in the US, so you've no excuse. What in the world is this supposed to mean? "Left" and "right" in the political sense isn't an exclusively US concept. In fact, this isn't a US concept at all - it's French. And it doesn't mean the same thing in the US as it does in most European countries.
- EliRivers 11y ago
  What in the world is this supposed to mean? It means that then political spectrum is varied and vast, and that it's lazy and incorrect to simply take this one aspect and call it "leftist". it also means that the US has a ridiculous, caricatured view of "left and "right" that the rest of the world finds by parts both bizarre and laughable. I suspect, based on the fact that you think it's necessary to provide a quick primer on the origin of the terms, that what I'm getting at goes over your head.

wsc981 11y ago

As you correctly noticed, I don't live in the USA. I live in The Netherlands. Our concepts of the left and right are different than in your country. I mentioned "leftist" from my Dutch perspective.

EliRivers 11y ago
And now you're just assuming that I don't know what "leftist" means. I don't live in the US, but you just assumed I did. Lazy, lazy, lazy. That's my point. Anyone who disagrees with the wall? They must be "leftist". Filthy filthy leftist. That's a nice easy way for me to label them and now I can disregard them because I've split the world into two groups, and obviously I'm in the good group. The rightists are pro-business and pro-labout movement, so it's the rightists who disagree with the wall. But wait, it's the rightists who are willing to give up liberties (especially someone else's) for security, so it's the rightists who want the wall. OMG, suddenly it turns out that simply saying "leftists" want this thing and "rightists" want the opposite is so simplified that it's simply incorrect, and the world is a lot more complicated. Start thinking for yourself.

gozur88 11y ago

>This ridiculous polarised and incorrect caricature of "left" and "right" is not only ridiculous, but also damaging. You don't even live in the US, so you've no excuse. What in the world is this supposed to mean? "Left" and "right" in the political sense isn't an exclusively US concept. In fact, this isn't a US concept at all - it's French. And it doesn't mean the same thing in the US as it does in most European countries.

EliRivers 11y ago
What in the world is this supposed to mean? It means that then political spectrum is varied and vast, and that it's lazy and incorrect to simply take this one aspect and call it "leftist". it also means that the US has a ridiculous, caricatured view of "left and "right" that the rest of the world finds by parts both bizarre and laughable. I suspect, based on the fact that you think it's necessary to provide a quick primer on the origin of the terms, that what I'm getting at goes over your head.