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There's certainly a stigma in the US that affects non-native speakers of English. It reminds me of this post that was upvoted a week or so ago: http://antirez.c
by vinay427 11y ago
There's certainly a stigma in the US that affects non-native speakers of English. It reminds me of this post that was upvoted a week or so ago: http://antirez.com/news/61 http://antirez.com/news/61
I'm not sure I agree that grammar proficiency is not an indicator for intelligence, however. In my mind it's an aspect of intelligence, but one that is irrelevant when talking about science, math, or a variety of other fields.
- cryptotype 11y agoGrammar is absolutely relevant in science, math and various other fields. Noone wants to have to parse ungrammatical documentation or scientific papers. It's certainly possible to get by in STEM with poor grammar, but it is harder to excel that way. Grammar below a certain threshold impedes natural language communication, which is important even in technical fields.
- knughit 11y agoWhat is good grammar? Good grammar is simply however the current people in power speak. "A language is a dialect with an Army and a Navy".
- cryptotype 11y agoGood grammar is something that helps large groups of people understand each other quickly and clearly. It helps those armies and navies succeed.
- startling 11y ago> Good grammar is something that helps large groups of people understand each other quickly and clearly. It helps those armies and navies succeed. Sure, but this has little to do with perception of good grammar (in the US at least).
- sbilstein 11y agoThere's a really big difference between terse academic written language and the kind of mode switching that goes on when speaking out loud for bilingual speakers. Most people have a much easier time following rules of grammar when writing language than when speaking it. Papers in english from academics around the world are often more readable than their spoken english.