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Why Old Sports Photos Often Have a Blue Haze
- wyldfire 11y agoIs this the same phenomenon as Rayleigh scattering [1]? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering
- Ono-Sendai 11y agoYes, I think so.
- OopsCriticality 11y agoActually, I think it is more accurately ascribed to Tyndall scatter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndall_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndall_effect
- dest 11y agoto replace the smoke of cigarette, they could just use artificial smoke ;) but except for photographs, this would not be welcome by the public
- lflux 11y agoTobacco smoke has finer particles than standard glycol-based smoke machines. For concert lighting, tobacco smoke gives a much better effect if all you want to see are the light beams, glycol is a bit coarser and not as smooth-looking in comparison. You can get a fair bit closer to that look by using an oil-based cracker. Those have finer particles than glycol-based, but they have their own drawbacks as they rely on an air compressor that's either noisy or needs to be placed somewhere far away, and the oil tends to get on every light fixture and surface in the venue. It looks fantastic though. When they introduced a smoking ban at the concert venue I worked at, I noticed that we had to run our smoke machines a lot harder to get the same looks we previously got "for free" from the punters smoking tobacco.
- dest 11y agoThank you for those interesting details about smoke technology
- aaron695 11y agoThe reasons against smoking is, smoke. Doesn't matter were it comes from. Of course the putting it concentrated in your lungs a far more serious issue than it just being around so your statement stands :) [edit] No idea where glycol based smoke stands as far as cancer goes
- karlshea 11y agoIt's not smoke, it's haze. Glycol "smoke" is just vaporized, there's nothing burning.
- tzs 11y agoIt's still bad for you, at least according to the references cited in this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatrical_smoke_and_fog#Adverse_health_effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatrical_smoke_and_fog#Adver...
- kepano 11y agoI've noticed the Staples Center lighting in videos, but didn't realize it was part of a Lakers campaign called "Lights Out". I think this goes a long way towards increasing the drama on the court. While it might not have the added haze of a smoke filled room, it does make a big difference to the viewing experience and seems to result in much better photography. Found this related article from a sports photographer http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1671 http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1671
- harryjo 11y agoArticle is from 2006 (or 2002? there are two dates). Is "Lights Out" lighting still used today?
- forgottenpass 11y agoYes, look at the photos in the original article from the Staples Center in 2015.
- soheil 11y agoIt appears as if in the past 40 years we have traded the smoke in the air with ad-riddled public spaces. Time for a California Indoor Ad-Free Act of 2016?
- jensen123 11y agoI think we ought adopt a writing system similar to the Japanese, with Chinese characters. When I've been to Japan, I've seen areas with lots of advertising, but it looks pretty because of the Chinese characters being used. So, I'm thinking it's our ugly Latin alphabet that is the real problem here, not ads.
- madeofpalk 11y agoThe grass always looks greener on the other side. Perhaps when the Japanese come to western countries they admire the simplicity of our Latin alphabet and think our ads are better than the pictograph-laden Japanese ones.
- ahmedfromtunis 11y agoIt'd be really interesting if a Japanese person can confirm this!
- bojo 11y agoI've actually had this conversation here in Japan. It was pointed out to me that Western signs are incredibly drab compared to those written with Chinese characters. The primary reasoning as explained to me was that the Chinese characters tend to be incorporated as a main part of the design, while Latin characters tend to be used in a more practical nature and supplemented with other design features. Very subjective of course, but an opinion I find myself agreeing to. For the record, Chinese characters (Japanese kanji) are considered ideographic. Pictographic implies that the meaning of the symbol can be derived from the design itself, which isn't true for the vast majority of Chinese characters. Only a small subset are actually pictographic in nature.
- wtbob 11y agoIt's not just arenas. Bars and pubs were more attractive when they were filled with smoke, back in the free days a decade ago.
- simoncion 11y ago> Bars and pubs were more attractive when they were filled with smoke... A while back, I had occasion to re-visit Alabama to see friends and family. At that time in Alabama, bars and pubs are free to choose whether or not they prohibited indoor smoking. (I've no idea what current regulations are regarding the same.) In bars that permitted indoor smoking, the atmosphere was a horrible eye irritant. My clothing reeked for a week, or until I washed it -whichever came first-. Back in my college days, I didn't see what the big deal was. Then, I moved out to a place that prohibited smoking in indoor public places. It took that change of perspective to understand how much nicer I find an environment that is not saturated in tobacco smoke. YMMV, of course, but I expect that I'm far from the only one who holds this opinion.
- edward 11y agoWhy can't we have the same effect as an instagram filter?
- InclinedPlane 11y agoSimilarly, air sickness rates have become much lower since airplane cabins haven't been filled with cigarette smoke.
- dorfsmay 11y agoBut it's been more difficult to find air leaks in airplane body during maintenance, tobacco traces on the metal (behind the plastic walls) used to point to leaks.