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Seems that this isn't what I thought: an ad-blocker integrated into Firefox directly. They are apparently no longer going to be advertising in "Tiles", whateve

Seems that this isn't what I thought: an ad-blocker integrated into Firefox directly. They are apparently no longer going to be advertising in "Tiles", whatever that is. A quick search makes it seem like an optional interface for the new tab page, before any navigation has occurred. I don't use Firefox so can't really comment about Tiles, but I would be kinda annoyed seeing ads on the new tab page in Chrome.

yeukhon 11y ago
Actually, I doubt anyone notice anything. I for one, keeps opening new tab with CMD + Tab and rarely pay attention to the tiles. Even if I did, my eyes turn to the sites I visit the most (facebook, HN, AWS, Google, etc). So the Tiles experiment itself is pretty doom from the beginning. When you try to sell ads, and you want to remain polite and least annoying, you are doing it wrong. You can't have it both ways easily.
- JadeNB 11y ago
  > When you try to sell ads, and you want to remain polite and least annoying, you are doing it wrong. You can't have it both ways easily. I agree with the second sentence, but not the first: the fact that you can't have both easily doesn't mean that you're doing it wrong by trying to have both. Remaining polite and as little annoying as possible is definitely doing it right, so the only sense in which this could be "doing it wrong" is if advertisers weren't paying; but that seems not to have been what happened here—the rollback is (or at least is being presented as) a response to user, not advertiser, dissatisfaction.
  - yeukhon 11y ago
    Perhaps they are responding to the dissatisfaction of the users. You are right that we should try to make advertisement as polite as possible. I feel that at least 50% of the withdrawl came from the fact that they realize their Tiles is not an effective revenue model because putting ads on Tiles does not get enough traction. That's what I meant when I said Mozilla was doing it wrong. They are not in the position to do ads. Where else can they put ads and still being "polite"? I see so none in the browser space.
stanleydrew 11y ago
Can't edit my comment, but the title was updated to explain the Tiles connection. Original title was "Mozilla will stop advertising in Firefox".

yeukhon 11y ago

Actually, I doubt anyone notice anything. I for one, keeps opening new tab with CMD + Tab and rarely pay attention to the tiles. Even if I did, my eyes turn to the sites I visit the most (facebook, HN, AWS, Google, etc). So the Tiles experiment itself is pretty doom from the beginning. When you try to sell ads, and you want to remain polite and least annoying, you are doing it wrong. You can't have it both ways easily.

JadeNB 11y ago
> When you try to sell ads, and you want to remain polite and least annoying, you are doing it wrong. You can't have it both ways easily. I agree with the second sentence, but not the first: the fact that you can't have both easily doesn't mean that you're doing it wrong by trying to have both. Remaining polite and as little annoying as possible is definitely doing it right, so the only sense in which this could be "doing it wrong" is if advertisers weren't paying; but that seems not to have been what happened here—the rollback is (or at least is being presented as) a response to user, not advertiser, dissatisfaction.
- yeukhon 11y ago
  Perhaps they are responding to the dissatisfaction of the users. You are right that we should try to make advertisement as polite as possible. I feel that at least 50% of the withdrawl came from the fact that they realize their Tiles is not an effective revenue model because putting ads on Tiles does not get enough traction. That's what I meant when I said Mozilla was doing it wrong. They are not in the position to do ads. Where else can they put ads and still being "polite"? I see so none in the browser space.

stanleydrew 11y ago

Can't edit my comment, but the title was updated to explain the Tiles connection. Original title was "Mozilla will stop advertising in Firefox".