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The overall latency (not audio, but the responsiveness, in general) of my Nexus 7 2013 got much worse in Marshmallow. It now takes a second or two after clickin

The overall latency (not audio, but the responsiveness, in general) of my Nexus 7 2013 got much worse in Marshmallow. It now takes a second or two after clicking anything to get a response. I'm not sure what happened, but battery life also dropped immediately after the OTA update to 6.0. I don't have a lot of confidence that audio latency has improved, given the overall increased sluggishness of the device. I have a few music apps (Caustic, several DJ things, a couple of classic style trackers), but haven't tried them lately...partly because latency has always been such an issue that it wasn't worth trying to do stuff on it. Nonetheless, I avoid Apple products on principle, and also enjoy playing with audio stuff (so much so that I started an audiovisual company a few years ago, which I only recently extricated myself from, leaving it in the hands of one of the co-founders), so I'm pleased to see the issue getting attention. I'd love to be able to make real music on my tablet. I have a Gameboy that I use for "on the train" music tinkering, because it has an immediacy that is lost in most modern devices (not merely latency...just the general composition process on something so simple it's impossible to get bogged down in bullshit like selecting the perfect snare sample or something). It's be cool to be able use the Nexus 7 for that purpose.

6stringmerc 11y ago
Uh, while I think it's perfectly reasonable to like using a Gameboy for music tinkering, that whole "immediacy" thing you cite about composition process is essentially what got solved with Propellerhead's Figure. I've had it since the first version and it's grown into my personal, portable drum/bass/synth sketchpad and recommend it to anybody serious about composing on the go. Just because you don't know what's out there doesn't mean it's not out there, for what it's worth.
- SwellJoe 11y ago
  Figure is an iPhone/iPad app. There is no Android version.
  - 6stringmerc 11y ago
    I know, which means that until Android gets its garbage latency issues sorted out, having principles a la "No iDevices" simply cuts off the nose to spite the face.
    - SwellJoe 11y ago
      That's your position, which I have not made any assertion about. My position is that I don't buy Apple products. That is not to say I believe Google is vastly better, from an ethical perspective, but, Android is more open. Until I can buy a reasonable Firefox phone in the US, Android will have to do.
      - 6stringmerc 11y ago
        If I understand correctly Apple products can be "jailbroken" if you don't want to buy a new product and primarily want to use it for actual artistic endeavors. I was simply contradicting your assertion that music software isn't up to par with quick composition, because it is, and to assert otherwise is simply ignorant. In your case, willful, so that's just your own problem, as I noted.
        SwellJoe 11y ago
        Which part of my comment led you to the conclusion that I was ignorant? I specifically mentioned that I'd ruled out Apple devices on other grounds, which, I would think, would be sufficient evidence that I'm aware of the capabilities of those devices. I also mentioned that I founded an audiovisual company; one might conclude from that statement that I've recently worked in the field professionally. One might draw some conclusions from that, as well. I'm just not sure how one would draw the particular conclusions you've drawn, based on the comment that I made.

6stringmerc 11y ago

Uh, while I think it's perfectly reasonable to like using a Gameboy for music tinkering, that whole "immediacy" thing you cite about composition process is essentially what got solved with Propellerhead's Figure. I've had it since the first version and it's grown into my personal, portable drum/bass/synth sketchpad and recommend it to anybody serious about composing on the go. Just because you don't know what's out there doesn't mean it's not out there, for what it's worth.

SwellJoe 11y ago
Figure is an iPhone/iPad app. There is no Android version.
- 6stringmerc 11y ago
  I know, which means that until Android gets its garbage latency issues sorted out, having principles a la "No iDevices" simply cuts off the nose to spite the face.
  - SwellJoe 11y ago
    That's your position, which I have not made any assertion about. My position is that I don't buy Apple products. That is not to say I believe Google is vastly better, from an ethical perspective, but, Android is more open. Until I can buy a reasonable Firefox phone in the US, Android will have to do.
    - 6stringmerc 11y ago
      If I understand correctly Apple products can be "jailbroken" if you don't want to buy a new product and primarily want to use it for actual artistic endeavors. I was simply contradicting your assertion that music software isn't up to par with quick composition, because it is, and to assert otherwise is simply ignorant. In your case, willful, so that's just your own problem, as I noted.
      - SwellJoe 11y ago
        Which part of my comment led you to the conclusion that I was ignorant? I specifically mentioned that I'd ruled out Apple devices on other grounds, which, I would think, would be sufficient evidence that I'm aware of the capabilities of those devices. I also mentioned that I founded an audiovisual company; one might conclude from that statement that I've recently worked in the field professionally. One might draw some conclusions from that, as well. I'm just not sure how one would draw the particular conclusions you've drawn, based on the comment that I made.