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I think it's too easy to blame proprietarism as such. It's a lack of universal sophistication in computer technology that makes designing systems living up to r

by gozo 11y ago

I think it's too easy to blame proprietarism as such. It's a lack of universal sophistication in computer technology that makes designing systems living up to real medical concerns great efforts. When the "manufacturing techniques" of computer software is modernized, and enables more widespread implementation of these types of systems, proprietary formats simple won't be able to compete.

ThomPete 11y ago
That still means that proprietarism is a huge problem. I been through a melanoma I can attest to the absurdity.
- gozo 11y ago
  I would be interested in hearing why you think proprietarism is such a greater problem than, and just not a symptom of, the things I mentioned and how you would expect to fix that.
organsnyder 11y ago
We know how to do this. Plenty of other industries have solved this problem. It takes organizational will to make it a priority.
- gozo 11y ago
  That's not the point, the point is that the effort required makes it harder to innovate and that not only does that limit competition but it also enable proprietarism. In a perfect world you could just e-mail the data without any concerns of authenticity, privacy, robustness etc. But you can't, so you would have to bring in a huge firm that is going to spend a lot of money and effort getting everything right or at least certified. Of course with all that effort they now have a huge incentive to keep thing proprietary since they want to recuperate their cost and the large barrier to entry make it even more advantageous because there will be little competition. Innovation often requires COTS components to be available at a sufficient standard. No one would doubt this when it comes to something like AWS or how Tesla could make such a high level car in a relatively short time. Of course if you question the state of software you get downvoted into oblivion without reason on HN. And if it wasn't clear, these (proprietary) systems very much exists.
  - baldfat 11y ago
    OP Here: My only issue is that there needs to be a requirement of inter-operate with each other. Sure take a copyright and a patent pending BUT make it so that other company systems can speak to each other. The parent shouldn't have to have the burden of "Holy Crap I am the only person in the world to know everything about my child." Doctors and nurses shouldn't have to have me retell everything a hundred times when 90% of that should be available. Innovate PLEASE but play nice with other systems.
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by gozo 11y ago

ThomPete 11y ago

That still means that proprietarism is a huge problem. I been through a melanoma I can attest to the absurdity.

gozo 11y ago
I would be interested in hearing why you think proprietarism is such a greater problem than, and just not a symptom of, the things I mentioned and how you would expect to fix that.

organsnyder 11y ago

We know how to do this. Plenty of other industries have solved this problem. It takes organizational will to make it a priority.

gozo 11y ago
That's not the point, the point is that the effort required makes it harder to innovate and that not only does that limit competition but it also enable proprietarism. In a perfect world you could just e-mail the data without any concerns of authenticity, privacy, robustness etc. But you can't, so you would have to bring in a huge firm that is going to spend a lot of money and effort getting everything right or at least certified. Of course with all that effort they now have a huge incentive to keep thing proprietary since they want to recuperate their cost and the large barrier to entry make it even more advantageous because there will be little competition. Innovation often requires COTS components to be available at a sufficient standard. No one would doubt this when it comes to something like AWS or how Tesla could make such a high level car in a relatively short time. Of course if you question the state of software you get downvoted into oblivion without reason on HN. And if it wasn't clear, these (proprietary) systems very much exists.
- baldfat 11y ago
  OP Here: My only issue is that there needs to be a requirement of inter-operate with each other. Sure take a copyright and a patent pending BUT make it so that other company systems can speak to each other. The parent shouldn't have to have the burden of "Holy Crap I am the only person in the world to know everything about my child." Doctors and nurses shouldn't have to have me retell everything a hundred times when 90% of that should be available. Innovate PLEASE but play nice with other systems.
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