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Ok, then we need the right kind of planning, not more. >> >You can't have people out waiting on public transport in that mess. >>Until about the 1950s, people

Ok, then we need the right kind of planning, not more. >> >You can't have people out waiting on public transport in that mess. >>Until about the 1950s, people in the South did wait on public transportation. Look up the timetables and maps of the old railroads, interurbans, and streetcars. You'd be amazed how far reaching public transportation in the US was. Many of the cities of consequence in the South sprung up around the railroads. Fair enough, but surely we can do better 60 years later.

Zach_the_Lizard 11y ago
> Ok, then we need the right kind of planning, not more. It's not just the right kind; there is no right kind of parking minimum. We are good at things like ensuring we don't build toxic waste dumps next to schools or that maybe coal firing power plants should be away from people. These are the kinds of things we should keep doing. What we need to do is to stop dictating lifestyle. I might want to drive everywhere, but that shouldn't mean that I use the law to force everyone to provide free parking for me (as is the case in much of America). I might want a large yard, but I shouldn't be able to use the law to force everyone else to have a large yard because that's just what I like. There are rational restrictions you can come up with, such as regarding shadows, but there are rational laws you can come up with in response to those beyond 'ban all things over X height'.
- astazangasta 11y ago
  >We are good at things like ensuring we don't build toxic waste dumps next to schools FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal
Retric 11y ago
A small shelter at each buss stop is fairly cheap to build. However, with a bus tracking app you don't need to spend much time waiting outside at most stops. Just where you transfer from bus A to bus B which makes this even cheaper.

Zach_the_Lizard 11y ago

> Ok, then we need the right kind of planning, not more. It's not just the right kind; there is no right kind of parking minimum. We are good at things like ensuring we don't build toxic waste dumps next to schools or that maybe coal firing power plants should be away from people. These are the kinds of things we should keep doing. What we need to do is to stop dictating lifestyle. I might want to drive everywhere, but that shouldn't mean that I use the law to force everyone to provide free parking for me (as is the case in much of America). I might want a large yard, but I shouldn't be able to use the law to force everyone else to have a large yard because that's just what I like. There are rational restrictions you can come up with, such as regarding shadows, but there are rational laws you can come up with in response to those beyond 'ban all things over X height'.

astazangasta 11y ago
>We are good at things like ensuring we don't build toxic waste dumps next to schools FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

Retric 11y ago

A small shelter at each buss stop is fairly cheap to build. However, with a bus tracking app you don't need to spend much time waiting outside at most stops. Just where you transfer from bus A to bus B which makes this even cheaper.