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Looks great. Why such emphasis on "Ember"? Does the target audience really care what front-end framework is used?

by watty 11y ago

meunier 11y ago
My guess is that it just opens the door for people who would know how to contribute to that codebase.
emehrkay 11y ago
I applaud the efforts taken here, more than I've ever done, and it looks good. But wasn't there big talk of Ember's (JavaScript's) poor(er) performance on Android devices recently? It seems like this tech would be prime for Android users. I don't know if the performance is bad from a usability standpoint or just a pure numbers via specs point of view.
- jph 11y ago
  Ember is an excellent choice for offline-first mobile applications, like this one, because Ember can manage more on the client side. You're likely recalling the recent article on HN that showed Ember taking longer to download the first time vs. React on a mobile phone. In a third-world offline hospital records app, the first time difference isn't especially important, and also it's more likely the hospital record keepers will use tablets, not phones.
- hardwaresofton 11y ago
  This is currently true, but one of the great (and terrible) things about Ember is that they adapt. They're currently working on a way to get past this, by actually enabling server-rendering (much like react): https://github.com/tildeio/ember-cli-fastboot https://github.com/tildeio/ember-cli-fastboot
tangollama 11y ago
Good question. The Ember reference isn't a religious statement in the holy war of frameworks. It's about targeting contribution and letting potential contributors know what we're using so that they can know and self-select. Goal #1 of the site currently is recruiting contributors b/c we aren't at a 1.0 release yet. We have it running in several hospitals in the charitable network that I serve, but it's not ready for wider distribution yet. We want to get there by July 2016. Once we get there, we'll refocus the purpose of the homepage.
Cshelton 11y ago
I also read that as kind of weird. Who is their target audience really...
hitekker 11y ago
Not listing and/or not emphasizing the core component of your product can lead to confusion and (possibly intentional) misrepresentation. I've seen situations in real life where someone will say "hey this tool is cool, how did they make it?" and another person "oh they used framework X, I think." A good chunk of people will then do their due diligence and discover that it was Framework Y not Framework X... but not everyone. There are some people still to this day, for example, who believe that AngularJS powers Youtube's desktop site.

Looks great. Why such emphasis on "Ember"? Does the target audience really care what front-end framework is used?

by watty 11y ago

Looks great. Why such emphasis on "Ember"? Does the target audience really care what front-end framework is used?

meunier 11y ago

My guess is that it just opens the door for people who would know how to contribute to that codebase.

emehrkay 11y ago

I applaud the efforts taken here, more than I've ever done, and it looks good. But wasn't there big talk of Ember's (JavaScript's) poor(er) performance on Android devices recently? It seems like this tech would be prime for Android users. I don't know if the performance is bad from a usability standpoint or just a pure numbers via specs point of view.

jph 11y ago
Ember is an excellent choice for offline-first mobile applications, like this one, because Ember can manage more on the client side. You're likely recalling the recent article on HN that showed Ember taking longer to download the first time vs. React on a mobile phone. In a third-world offline hospital records app, the first time difference isn't especially important, and also it's more likely the hospital record keepers will use tablets, not phones.
hardwaresofton 11y ago
This is currently true, but one of the great (and terrible) things about Ember is that they adapt. They're currently working on a way to get past this, by actually enabling server-rendering (much like react): https://github.com/tildeio/ember-cli-fastboot https://github.com/tildeio/ember-cli-fastboot

tangollama 11y ago

Good question. The Ember reference isn't a religious statement in the holy war of frameworks. It's about targeting contribution and letting potential contributors know what we're using so that they can know and self-select. Goal #1 of the site currently is recruiting contributors b/c we aren't at a 1.0 release yet. We have it running in several hospitals in the charitable network that I serve, but it's not ready for wider distribution yet. We want to get there by July 2016. Once we get there, we'll refocus the purpose of the homepage.

Cshelton 11y ago

I also read that as kind of weird. Who is their target audience really...

hitekker 11y ago

Not listing and/or not emphasizing the core component of your product can lead to confusion and (possibly intentional) misrepresentation. I've seen situations in real life where someone will say "hey this tool is cool, how did they make it?" and another person "oh they used framework X, I think." A good chunk of people will then do their due diligence and discover that it was Framework Y not Framework X... but not everyone. There are some people still to this day, for example, who believe that AngularJS powers Youtube's desktop site.