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> How did Microsoft mess that up? Don't they understand [snip] it needs to look attractive? They definitely need a new head designer/artist. Same problem with

by m1sta_ 11y ago

> How did Microsoft mess that up? Don't they understand [snip] it needs to look attractive? They definitely need a new head designer/artist. Same problem with the Surface series. Excellent engineering but not beautiful. I've never had an emotional response to the aesthetic of a Microsoft phone or tablet.

bhauer 11y ago
That's odd. Many people who have a Surface, myself included, consider the design elegant, sharp, and very appealing. I certainly find my Surface Book to be considerably nicer looking than products from another major vendor that is extremely popular here at HN. Surface products with their magnesium finish and crisp angles have a sleek high-end look that doesn't employ design refrains I find unseemly such as tapering edges and glowing logos. To put it in your words, I had a strong emotional response to the design of the Surface Book and its unique hinge. It's not more of the same and it looks great. Many of us fans of Windows Phone have picked up Lumia 950s because they are what is available today, but they were not designed by Panos Panay's Surface team. We are clamoring for an upcoming rumored "Surface Phone" that may have the Surface design motif which so many of us prefer. So the 950 feels like a stop-gap that was released to satiate fans as Panay's team cooks up something more interesting. As a Windows Mobile user, I'd run Android apps if they were available, of course. But I don't really care if they're not. I have the apps I use (phone, messaging, maps, e-mail, browser, Twitter, news, calendar, Netflix, Kindle, photos, stocks, weather, music, podcasts) and one I'm starting to really enjoy: Continuum. So sure, running Android apps might allow me to enjoy the latest food delivery or clothing sharing service from Silicon Valley, but... meh. I'll pass.
- GFischer 11y ago
  "people who have a Surface, myself included". That's a self-selecting group :) , so definitely not representative. I like the Surface, but it would be better to get people who don't own either a Surface or an Apple product to rate them.
  - bhauer 11y ago
    Beauty if a matter of opinion, and I was replying to an opinion: "Excellent engineering but not beautiful."

by m1sta_ 11y ago

bhauer 11y ago

That's odd. Many people who have a Surface, myself included, consider the design elegant, sharp, and very appealing. I certainly find my Surface Book to be considerably nicer looking than products from another major vendor that is extremely popular here at HN. Surface products with their magnesium finish and crisp angles have a sleek high-end look that doesn't employ design refrains I find unseemly such as tapering edges and glowing logos. To put it in your words, I had a strong emotional response to the design of the Surface Book and its unique hinge. It's not more of the same and it looks great. Many of us fans of Windows Phone have picked up Lumia 950s because they are what is available today, but they were not designed by Panos Panay's Surface team. We are clamoring for an upcoming rumored "Surface Phone" that may have the Surface design motif which so many of us prefer. So the 950 feels like a stop-gap that was released to satiate fans as Panay's team cooks up something more interesting. As a Windows Mobile user, I'd run Android apps if they were available, of course. But I don't really care if they're not. I have the apps I use (phone, messaging, maps, e-mail, browser, Twitter, news, calendar, Netflix, Kindle, photos, stocks, weather, music, podcasts) and one I'm starting to really enjoy: Continuum. So sure, running Android apps might allow me to enjoy the latest food delivery or clothing sharing service from Silicon Valley, but... meh. I'll pass.

GFischer 11y ago
"people who have a Surface, myself included". That's a self-selecting group :) , so definitely not representative. I like the Surface, but it would be better to get people who don't own either a Surface or an Apple product to rate them.
- bhauer 11y ago
  Beauty if a matter of opinion, and I was replying to an opinion: "Excellent engineering but not beautiful."