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No reason to drive while drunk and people who are driving drunk will do so no matter how much public transportation there is just as people who wont drive won't

No reason to drive while drunk and people who are driving drunk will do so no matter how much public transportation there is just as people who wont drive won't drive even if there was no busses, trains or taxis.

xyzzyz 11y ago
people who are driving drunk will do so no matter how much public transportation there is This is pretty unconvincing. I've only driven after drinking alcohol twice, and both of these occasions were in the US (just for the record, I drank only a drink or two). In my home country I've always driven 100% sober, every single time.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  If I've drank anything in the past 24 hours there is no amount of money you can offer me to drive a car. There are fundamental differences like that.
  - lawnchair_larry 11y ago
    That's not necessary. Driving after having a drink is normal. It's drunk driving that is a problem.
    - roel_v 11y ago
      "Driving after having a drink is normal." Uh, no it's not.
      - ChoGGi 11y ago
        Having a beer than driving home after work is quite normal.
        nucleardog 11y ago
        Having a glass of wine with dinner then driving home afterwards is quite normal...
      - nitrogen 11y ago
        In the US there is a blood alcohol level below which it is legal to drive. There are also frequently legal definitions of how much alcohol can be in one drink.
        roel_v 11y ago
        In most places there is, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's ok. Current state of knowledge is that any alcohol reduces ability to drive safely. Yes there are still holdouts who think they will be 'all right' after one, two or three (or more) glasses, but that doesn't make them right. I'm appalled that there are apparently several (many?) people on here who think that it's ok to drink and drive. Look, I don't care you all kill yourselves, but I do care that you expose others (like strangers, my family and yours) to such reckless behavior. How hard is it to drink water when you know you'll be driving?
        lawnchair_larry 11y ago
        No, it's fine. This shouldn't be appalling, virtual every alcohol consuming adult does this, and the effects are well understood. It's not a risk and shouldn't cause you grief. Are you inexperienced with alcohol?
        roel_v 11y ago
        I've been drinking alcohol if not every day then three-four times a week for more than a decade and only stopped half a year ago to loose some stubborn weight; and while my wine collection might not be 'extensive' it's still a collection. So no, I wouldn't consider myself 'inexperienced'. It must be sample bias, but literally nobody in my (quite diverse, both culturally/ethnically as well as geographically) circle of social contacts would consider somebody who drank two beers before driving anything but a hillbilly Cletus (or their countries' local equivalent). The notion that 'virtually every alcohol consuming adult does this' is nonsense.
        lawnchair_larry 11y ago
- notahacker 11y ago
  If you have enough public transportation there's a good chance you don't actually own a car...

xyzzyz 11y ago

people who are driving drunk will do so no matter how much public transportation there is This is pretty unconvincing. I've only driven after drinking alcohol twice, and both of these occasions were in the US (just for the record, I drank only a drink or two). In my home country I've always driven 100% sober, every single time.

746F7475 11y ago
If I've drank anything in the past 24 hours there is no amount of money you can offer me to drive a car. There are fundamental differences like that.
- lawnchair_larry 11y ago
  That's not necessary. Driving after having a drink is normal. It's drunk driving that is a problem.
  - roel_v 11y ago
    "Driving after having a drink is normal." Uh, no it's not.
    - ChoGGi 11y ago
      Having a beer than driving home after work is quite normal.
      - nucleardog 11y ago
        Having a glass of wine with dinner then driving home afterwards is quite normal...
    - nitrogen 11y ago
      In the US there is a blood alcohol level below which it is legal to drive. There are also frequently legal definitions of how much alcohol can be in one drink.
      - roel_v 11y ago
        In most places there is, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's ok. Current state of knowledge is that any alcohol reduces ability to drive safely. Yes there are still holdouts who think they will be 'all right' after one, two or three (or more) glasses, but that doesn't make them right. I'm appalled that there are apparently several (many?) people on here who think that it's ok to drink and drive. Look, I don't care you all kill yourselves, but I do care that you expose others (like strangers, my family and yours) to such reckless behavior. How hard is it to drink water when you know you'll be driving?
        lawnchair_larry 11y ago
        No, it's fine. This shouldn't be appalling, virtual every alcohol consuming adult does this, and the effects are well understood. It's not a risk and shouldn't cause you grief. Are you inexperienced with alcohol?
        roel_v 11y ago
        I've been drinking alcohol if not every day then three-four times a week for more than a decade and only stopped half a year ago to loose some stubborn weight; and while my wine collection might not be 'extensive' it's still a collection. So no, I wouldn't consider myself 'inexperienced'. It must be sample bias, but literally nobody in my (quite diverse, both culturally/ethnically as well as geographically) circle of social contacts would consider somebody who drank two beers before driving anything but a hillbilly Cletus (or their countries' local equivalent). The notion that 'virtually every alcohol consuming adult does this' is nonsense.
        lawnchair_larry 11y ago
notahacker 11y ago
If you have enough public transportation there's a good chance you don't actually own a car...