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That was a very interesting read. Anyone has the same experience as a dev how hard would it be to relocate there? Also, the article mentions that tech talent is

That was a very interesting read. Anyone has the same experience as a dev how hard would it be to relocate there? Also, the article mentions that tech talent is scarce, does this influences salaries in a good way?

hunvreus 11y ago
You seem to be from the UK. I'd move to London, Berlin or SF before considering China if what you're after is a big salary. Keep in mind that things are not as easy as they used to be for Visa either (you need a certain level of education and 2 years of professional experience relevant to your diploma). If you're determined to move to China, I'd recommend you avoid Beijing (super polluted, hard to get around and cold as f*ck in the winter). Kunming sounds good, so does Chengdu. I personally like Xiamen, but not sure there's any real tech community there. Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Hangzhou are also options. Shameless plug; for anybody interested, we're hiring in Shanghai. We work mostly with React, Node.js, Swift, Golang, Android, Python, Docker, Ansible. We build apps that matter: https://wiredcraft.com/about/#jobs https://wiredcraft.com/about/#jobs
obicho 11y ago
Thank you for reading. If you have a solid tech background, you will not have any problem relocating there. This was my second time. My first time was in 2005 and I relocated to Shanghai. As far as dev salary is concerned, most expats get better packages, especially if you've a hard-to-find skill set.
contingencies 11y ago
Another option if you are willing to strike out on your own or invest some time up front is to go somewhere cheaper without the Beijing/other large city problems of air pollution, climate, traffic and cost. This will allow you to tackle language and culture challenges on your own terms and timeframe without breaking the bank. Personally I love it here in Kunming! The weather is great, air quality and traffic is still OK, nature is on your doorstep and you can easily rent a reasonably sized place (eg. 3 bedrooms) for 2000元 per month (ie. USD$75/week). Plus, great international community and direct flights to other places (Thailand, India, Paris, etc.) are quick and cheap. We are starting a maker space here right now: http://cave.pratyeka.org/ http://cave.pratyeka.org/
- obicho 11y ago
  I am a big fan of Maker Faire. I am glad to see that you have done a good job securing the a nice spot in Kunming and converting it to maker space. I bet you probaly have no competitors over there!
- duiker101 11y ago
  wow that sounds really nice! Is it very hard to integrate as a foreigner? Maybe next year I will come for a visit! :)
  - contingencies 11y ago
    You are welcome to email... address in profile.

hunvreus 11y ago

You seem to be from the UK. I'd move to London, Berlin or SF before considering China if what you're after is a big salary. Keep in mind that things are not as easy as they used to be for Visa either (you need a certain level of education and 2 years of professional experience relevant to your diploma). If you're determined to move to China, I'd recommend you avoid Beijing (super polluted, hard to get around and cold as f*ck in the winter). Kunming sounds good, so does Chengdu. I personally like Xiamen, but not sure there's any real tech community there. Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Hangzhou are also options. Shameless plug; for anybody interested, we're hiring in Shanghai. We work mostly with React, Node.js, Swift, Golang, Android, Python, Docker, Ansible. We build apps that matter: https://wiredcraft.com/about/#jobs https://wiredcraft.com/about/#jobs

obicho 11y ago

Thank you for reading. If you have a solid tech background, you will not have any problem relocating there. This was my second time. My first time was in 2005 and I relocated to Shanghai. As far as dev salary is concerned, most expats get better packages, especially if you've a hard-to-find skill set.

contingencies 11y ago

Another option if you are willing to strike out on your own or invest some time up front is to go somewhere cheaper without the Beijing/other large city problems of air pollution, climate, traffic and cost. This will allow you to tackle language and culture challenges on your own terms and timeframe without breaking the bank. Personally I love it here in Kunming! The weather is great, air quality and traffic is still OK, nature is on your doorstep and you can easily rent a reasonably sized place (eg. 3 bedrooms) for 2000元 per month (ie. USD$75/week). Plus, great international community and direct flights to other places (Thailand, India, Paris, etc.) are quick and cheap. We are starting a maker space here right now: http://cave.pratyeka.org/ http://cave.pratyeka.org/

obicho 11y ago
I am a big fan of Maker Faire. I am glad to see that you have done a good job securing the a nice spot in Kunming and converting it to maker space. I bet you probaly have no competitors over there!
duiker101 11y ago
wow that sounds really nice! Is it very hard to integrate as a foreigner? Maybe next year I will come for a visit! :)
- contingencies 11y ago
  You are welcome to email... address in profile.