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N2 has no net effect. That's why it's not considered a greenhouse gas. Stick with the accepted definitions (and get them right) and you'll eventually make a use

N2 has no net effect. That's why it's not considered a greenhouse gas. Stick with the accepted definitions (and get them right) and you'll eventually make a useful contribution. hint: pretending you know how to make a working climate model is not one.

Retric 11y ago
Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature. You clearly don't believe me, and are unwilling to do the research. But, think for a second, 78% of the atmosphere, zero net effect on temperature, or you’re using an overly simplified model. PS: I like most people did not build a weather model by myself. I did dig into one fairly deeply when looking into building a turn based civilization game, and I must say they get vastly more complex than you might think.
- 23452436 11y ago
  Finslly, a reply button shows up where it ought to be. You're showing a little too much of your hand, here. It turns out you're comparing quintessentially non-deterministic models based on _partial_ (you also needed to know that bit) differential equations to the little deterministic thing you're working up in your mom's basement. In the latter, if you're not lazy and provide some _truly_ random element, you get to control how much chaos it causes. That's not the case in the climate model attempts. Till now, I haven't told you anything about the DE (not PDE) based modeling I do professionally on systems with several million components. Because it's hard to talk to a bloviator without stopping to point out the stupidities. In the vastly more well-controlled DE environment, one wrong input out of several thousand can still send the system into an invalid state. In sum: you'd be well advised not to pretend superior knowledge without providing a shred of evidence in favor, and much contrary.
  - Retric 11y ago
    lol, you have no idea what I do professionally yet you are trying to appeal to authority. A well designed model does not go to absurdity with a single wrong input. You really should be able to setoff a nuke inside your model and return to stability afterword, because that's what actually happens in the real world. ED: Assuming your not modeling something that can actually physically break. (Even then if steal is floating you have messed up) PS: And now I am starting to wonder if you are a former coworker. (And not in a good way)
    - ertyuiopas 11y ago
      Oh. You really are clueless, then. I'm sorry I've wasted my time on this.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    > a reply button shows up where it ought to be there's a time delay to help prevent comments like > Because it's hard to talk to a bloviator without stopping to point out the stupidities.

Retric 11y ago

Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature. You clearly don't believe me, and are unwilling to do the research. But, think for a second, 78% of the atmosphere, zero net effect on temperature, or you’re using an overly simplified model. PS: I like most people did not build a weather model by myself. I did dig into one fairly deeply when looking into building a turn based civilization game, and I must say they get vastly more complex than you might think.

23452436 11y ago
Finslly, a reply button shows up where it ought to be. You're showing a little too much of your hand, here. It turns out you're comparing quintessentially non-deterministic models based on _partial_ (you also needed to know that bit) differential equations to the little deterministic thing you're working up in your mom's basement. In the latter, if you're not lazy and provide some _truly_ random element, you get to control how much chaos it causes. That's not the case in the climate model attempts. Till now, I haven't told you anything about the DE (not PDE) based modeling I do professionally on systems with several million components. Because it's hard to talk to a bloviator without stopping to point out the stupidities. In the vastly more well-controlled DE environment, one wrong input out of several thousand can still send the system into an invalid state. In sum: you'd be well advised not to pretend superior knowledge without providing a shred of evidence in favor, and much contrary.
- Retric 11y ago
  lol, you have no idea what I do professionally yet you are trying to appeal to authority. A well designed model does not go to absurdity with a single wrong input. You really should be able to setoff a nuke inside your model and return to stability afterword, because that's what actually happens in the real world. ED: Assuming your not modeling something that can actually physically break. (Even then if steal is floating you have messed up) PS: And now I am starting to wonder if you are a former coworker. (And not in a good way)
  - ertyuiopas 11y ago
    Oh. You really are clueless, then. I'm sorry I've wasted my time on this.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > a reply button shows up where it ought to be there's a time delay to help prevent comments like > Because it's hard to talk to a bloviator without stopping to point out the stupidities.