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No I mean if you read all of it, it talks about the nuance in a lot of detail.

by HiLo 11y ago

Afforess 11y ago
No, it really doesn't. Here is the meat of it: > Krämer: In this case, 40 superwealthy people want to decide what their money will be used for. That runs counter to the democratically legitimate state. In the end the billionaires are indulging in hobbies that might be in the common good, but are very personal. Literally, that is all the article has in terms of direct quotes and support. The rest of the article is a discussion and re-hash of other notable charities and comparison of charitable contributions per country, which is a side-tangent.
- HiLo 11y ago
  What are you talking about? It has much more than that?
  - Afforess 11y ago
    Pretty sure it doesn't. Feel free to provide quotes / evidence if you disagree.
    - HiLo 11y ago
      Does that discussion of his $100 million donation simply not count in your book? Did it not show up in your browser?
      - Afforess 11y ago
        It's not relevant because their current pledge is significantly different in how it is managed (previous was a 503c charitable contribution, current is an LLC-based corporation that will have stricter control over allocation of funds).
        HiLo 11y ago
        The legal structure has nothing to do with the principal here, stop obfuscating the argument.
- Retric 11y ago
  "The pair do not have a sterling track record when it comes to effective charity. One of their previous efforts, a high-profile $100 million donation to fix the schools in Newark, N.J., has been widely criticized as a failure." Asking for a quote misses the point. Look into it yourself and the first link is Where Zuckerberg's $100 million gift went wrong http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/23/where-zuckerbergs-100-million-gift-went-wrong-pros.html http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/23/where-zuckerbergs-100-million...
  - marknutter 11y ago
    Government efforts never fail, on the other hand.
  - knughit 11y ago
    Note that the $100m was a gift to the government, overseen by thr governor of NJ, so it is hard to say that was a failure of private philanthropy vs government.
    - Chathamization 11y ago
      It wasn't simply a gift, Zuckerberg directed it towards the reforms he thought were fit. According to Business Insider: >Zuckerberg envisioned the teacher contract reform to be a centerpiece of the reform and contributed $50 million — half of his total donation — to go to working on that cause. So he decided to throw $50 million at teacher contract reform around the same time that, according to the CNBC article, "the state cutting $56 million in school aid."

No I mean if you read all of it, it talks about the nuance in a lot of detail.

by HiLo 11y ago

No I mean if you read all of it, it talks about the nuance in a lot of detail.

No, it really doesn't. Here is the meat of it: > Krämer: In this case, 40 superwealthy people want to decide what their money will be used for. That runs counter to the democratically legitimate state. In the end the billionaires are indulging in hobbies that might be in the common good, but are very personal. Literally, that is all the article has in terms of direct quotes and support. The rest of the article is a discussion and re-hash of other notable charities and comparison of charitable contributions per country, which is a side-tangent.

HiLo 11y ago
What are you talking about? It has much more than that?
- Afforess 11y ago
  Pretty sure it doesn't. Feel free to provide quotes / evidence if you disagree.
  - HiLo 11y ago
    Does that discussion of his $100 million donation simply not count in your book? Did it not show up in your browser?
    - Afforess 11y ago
      It's not relevant because their current pledge is significantly different in how it is managed (previous was a 503c charitable contribution, current is an LLC-based corporation that will have stricter control over allocation of funds).
      - HiLo 11y ago
        The legal structure has nothing to do with the principal here, stop obfuscating the argument.
Retric 11y ago
"The pair do not have a sterling track record when it comes to effective charity. One of their previous efforts, a high-profile $100 million donation to fix the schools in Newark, N.J., has been widely criticized as a failure." Asking for a quote misses the point. Look into it yourself and the first link is Where Zuckerberg's $100 million gift went wrong http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/23/where-zuckerbergs-100-million-gift-went-wrong-pros.html http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/23/where-zuckerbergs-100-million...
- marknutter 11y ago
  Government efforts never fail, on the other hand.
- knughit 11y ago
  Note that the $100m was a gift to the government, overseen by thr governor of NJ, so it is hard to say that was a failure of private philanthropy vs government.
  - Chathamization 11y ago
    It wasn't simply a gift, Zuckerberg directed it towards the reforms he thought were fit. According to Business Insider: >Zuckerberg envisioned the teacher contract reform to be a centerpiece of the reform and contributed $50 million — half of his total donation — to go to working on that cause. So he decided to throw $50 million at teacher contract reform around the same time that, according to the CNBC article, "the state cutting $56 million in school aid."