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Actually, everything you wrote besides "eat greens" is outdated incorrect information according to current first class research.

atom-morgan 11y ago
Soda and sweet drinks?
- OldSchoolJohnny 11y ago
  Yeah, posted too quickly, that is of course known and proven. The bits that he got wrong were the avoid fatty red meat and eat whole wheat (full of antinutrients as are all seeds meant for birds and not mammals) and the old calorie hypothesis which has since been soundly disproven but is probably the most common fallacy out there today.
  - biot 11y ago
    I wasn't aware caloric restriction was disproven. See, for example: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor
  - viewer5 11y ago
    What's the old calorie hypothesis?
  - noondip 11y ago
    Care to provide citations for the claims that fatty red meat is at all healthy (last I checked, saturated and trans fat cause cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, atherosclerosis - just to name a few problems), or that whole wheats contain antinutrients, or are somehow unhealthy?
    - DrScump 11y ago
      Again, your basic scientific knowledge is lacking. There is no meaningful transfat in red meat, fatty or otherwise.
      - noondip 11y ago
        > There are two broad types of trans fats found in foods: naturally-occurring and artificial trans fats. Naturally-occurring trans fats are produced in the gut of some animals and foods made from these animals (e.g., milk and meat products) may contain small quantities of these fats. http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/HealthyEating/Trans-Fats_UCM_301120_Article.jsp http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter... > Because trans fats are unavoidable on ordinary, non-vegan diets, getting down to zero percent trans fats would require significant changes in patterns of dietary intake. http://www.worldcat.org/title/dietary-reference-intakes-for-energy-carbohydrate-fiber-fat-fatty-acids-cholesterol-protein-and-amino-acids-macronutrients/oclc/439360210 http://www.worldcat.org/title/dietary-reference-intakes-for-... > Processed foods and oils provide approximately 80 percent of trans fats in the diet, compared to 20 percent that occur naturally in food from animal sources. http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/html/chapter6.htm http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/html/ch... 20 percent is not meaningful? Next, are you going to try and convince me that trans fat is good for you?
      - DrScump 11y ago
        I can't reply in-context to noondip's reply here yet, but note that he now says meat has "small amounts" of transfats where he previously wrote "laden with".
        noondip 11y ago
        I haven't downvoted you, man (it isn't possible to downvote direct child comments, as far as I can tell). Why are you being so hostile? You're also quoting me out of context; I wrote, "laden with cholesterol, saturated and trans fats" which isn't an exaggeration. By the way, you can reply directly by clicking on the timestamp (e.g. n minutes ago).

atom-morgan 11y ago

Soda and sweet drinks?

OldSchoolJohnny 11y ago
Yeah, posted too quickly, that is of course known and proven. The bits that he got wrong were the avoid fatty red meat and eat whole wheat (full of antinutrients as are all seeds meant for birds and not mammals) and the old calorie hypothesis which has since been soundly disproven but is probably the most common fallacy out there today.
- biot 11y ago
  I wasn't aware caloric restriction was disproven. See, for example: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor
- viewer5 11y ago
  What's the old calorie hypothesis?
- noondip 11y ago
  Care to provide citations for the claims that fatty red meat is at all healthy (last I checked, saturated and trans fat cause cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, atherosclerosis - just to name a few problems), or that whole wheats contain antinutrients, or are somehow unhealthy?
  - DrScump 11y ago
    Again, your basic scientific knowledge is lacking. There is no meaningful transfat in red meat, fatty or otherwise.
    - noondip 11y ago
      > There are two broad types of trans fats found in foods: naturally-occurring and artificial trans fats. Naturally-occurring trans fats are produced in the gut of some animals and foods made from these animals (e.g., milk and meat products) may contain small quantities of these fats. http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/HealthyEating/Trans-Fats_UCM_301120_Article.jsp http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter... > Because trans fats are unavoidable on ordinary, non-vegan diets, getting down to zero percent trans fats would require significant changes in patterns of dietary intake. http://www.worldcat.org/title/dietary-reference-intakes-for-energy-carbohydrate-fiber-fat-fatty-acids-cholesterol-protein-and-amino-acids-macronutrients/oclc/439360210 http://www.worldcat.org/title/dietary-reference-intakes-for-... > Processed foods and oils provide approximately 80 percent of trans fats in the diet, compared to 20 percent that occur naturally in food from animal sources. http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/html/chapter6.htm http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/html/ch... 20 percent is not meaningful? Next, are you going to try and convince me that trans fat is good for you?
    - DrScump 11y ago
      I can't reply in-context to noondip's reply here yet, but note that he now says meat has "small amounts" of transfats where he previously wrote "laden with".
      - noondip 11y ago
        I haven't downvoted you, man (it isn't possible to downvote direct child comments, as far as I can tell). Why are you being so hostile? You're also quoting me out of context; I wrote, "laden with cholesterol, saturated and trans fats" which isn't an exaggeration. By the way, you can reply directly by clicking on the timestamp (e.g. n minutes ago).