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I was just listening to an Episode of the Nerdist podcast featuring Aziz Ansari today and he talked about the issue of people taking pictures or filming his liv

I was just listening to an Episode of the Nerdist podcast featuring Aziz Ansari today and he talked about the issue of people taking pictures or filming his live material and leaking it to the public. He said he had no issue with people recording material that is already public, but that it really stinks when new material is leaked because it waters down the humor for future attendees of his shows. To combat this, at the beginning of his shows, he asks everyone to take out their phones/cameras and stands there while they take pictures of him. Then he nicely asks them to not use their phones/cameras during the rest of the show. Obviously this doesn't stop everyone but I think it's a pretty low-cost, high reward option.

justifier 11y ago
a counter argument.. i went to a ucb monday night, aziz was on the ticket which is what prompted the memory, and i understand comedians do free shows, or favourite haunts, to work material i once saw mitch hedberg do a 10$ show nearly from a notepad and made it part of the joke, taking notes on audience reaction then noting the reaction to the notes at the ucb show there was a comedian i was unaware i was familiar with named josh fadem, he did a bit on werner herzog pitching a hidden camera show that i laughed over for three comedians after fadem's set i wanted to remember the nuance of the bit and scoured the internet but was unable to find anything substantial, i did find this(o) early in development version of the joke but it pales in comparison to the complexity and construction of the one i saw him do live i really wish someone had a phone on him that night (o) https://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/WernerHerzogsRealityShow https://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/WernerHerzogsRealityShow
- DarkTree 11y ago
  And then you think of the thousands upon thousands of years humans have experienced very special, nuanced moments without any way of reliving them. Sometimes you just have to appreciate experiencing it in the moment.
  - justifier 11y ago
    note i said i wish someone had a phone on him, selfishly relieving myself of the burden i used to do an open mic circuit and the coolest thing i saw at a bar was an mc with a tech bent that upon agreement would pipe the mic through recording software as well as the pa and then automated a conversion and upload system where you, or any visitor, could go to the bar's website and download your set in high quality mp3 i'm very appreciative of the experience i lament being unable to share it with you
- dclowd9901 11y ago
  Why is it so important to share it? Often I find expressions of art wherein I find enjoyment in their nuances are almost unshareable, in that other people's reactions to it will almost invariably disappoint you (the "Check out this new song I heard!" problem). There is a different joy in knowing you experienced something no one else will.
  - justifier 11y ago
    if you want to discuss the arbitrary importance i would posit i think it important to live in opposition to the conceit 'well, i got mine' that may be in direct opposition to the wishes of the developer of the work, in this case chappelle, which i would default in respecting, while simultaneously arguing the choice pauli(o) would agree the experience is unshareable but the material certainly can be allowing for more unique experiences to be had (o) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle
cholantesh 11y ago
Robert Fripp reversed a longtime no recording policy on the latest King Crimson tour by scheduling time at the beginning, the intermission, and the final bow of every show when people can do this. On the first of the three nights they played in Toronto, someone took a picture during the opening of 21st Century Schizoid Man and the show was stopped, but not before Fripp apparently stood up and pointed out the guy who did it so everyone could see why the band abruptly stopped playing. Anyone who spends a few minutes on Twitter these days can see how terrifying a public shaming can be, so I can see this practice being a strong motivator. I'm not sure it's better than Ansari's method, though.

justifier 11y ago

a counter argument.. i went to a ucb monday night, aziz was on the ticket which is what prompted the memory, and i understand comedians do free shows, or favourite haunts, to work material i once saw mitch hedberg do a 10$ show nearly from a notepad and made it part of the joke, taking notes on audience reaction then noting the reaction to the notes at the ucb show there was a comedian i was unaware i was familiar with named josh fadem, he did a bit on werner herzog pitching a hidden camera show that i laughed over for three comedians after fadem's set i wanted to remember the nuance of the bit and scoured the internet but was unable to find anything substantial, i did find this(o) early in development version of the joke but it pales in comparison to the complexity and construction of the one i saw him do live i really wish someone had a phone on him that night (o) https://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/WernerHerzogsRealityShow https://www.rooftopcomedy.com/watch/WernerHerzogsRealityShow

DarkTree 11y ago
And then you think of the thousands upon thousands of years humans have experienced very special, nuanced moments without any way of reliving them. Sometimes you just have to appreciate experiencing it in the moment.
- justifier 11y ago
  note i said i wish someone had a phone on him, selfishly relieving myself of the burden i used to do an open mic circuit and the coolest thing i saw at a bar was an mc with a tech bent that upon agreement would pipe the mic through recording software as well as the pa and then automated a conversion and upload system where you, or any visitor, could go to the bar's website and download your set in high quality mp3 i'm very appreciative of the experience i lament being unable to share it with you
dclowd9901 11y ago
Why is it so important to share it? Often I find expressions of art wherein I find enjoyment in their nuances are almost unshareable, in that other people's reactions to it will almost invariably disappoint you (the "Check out this new song I heard!" problem). There is a different joy in knowing you experienced something no one else will.
- justifier 11y ago
  if you want to discuss the arbitrary importance i would posit i think it important to live in opposition to the conceit 'well, i got mine' that may be in direct opposition to the wishes of the developer of the work, in this case chappelle, which i would default in respecting, while simultaneously arguing the choice pauli(o) would agree the experience is unshareable but the material certainly can be allowing for more unique experiences to be had (o) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle

cholantesh 11y ago

Robert Fripp reversed a longtime no recording policy on the latest King Crimson tour by scheduling time at the beginning, the intermission, and the final bow of every show when people can do this. On the first of the three nights they played in Toronto, someone took a picture during the opening of 21st Century Schizoid Man and the show was stopped, but not before Fripp apparently stood up and pointed out the guy who did it so everyone could see why the band abruptly stopped playing. Anyone who spends a few minutes on Twitter these days can see how terrifying a public shaming can be, so I can see this practice being a strong motivator. I'm not sure it's better than Ansari's method, though.