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The problem is not with someone criticizing a trope. The problem is: what happens when the trope is criticized, and the response is "thanks for your input but

The problem is not with someone criticizing a trope. The problem is: what happens when the trope is criticized, and the response is "thanks for your input but it's not changing." That's when the mobs and hashtags and internet shaming campaigns come out. That's when news media takes it upon itself to carry out boycott campaigns. That's when employers are contacted and people get fired or are forced to make groveling public apologies. If you see hostile reactions to mere criticism, it's because nowadays criticism is often a prequel to aggression.

norea-armozel 11y ago
"That's when the mobs and hashtags and internet shaming campaigns come out." Let me stop you right there. Hashtags on Twitter or some other social media aren't harassment. I wish everyone would stop with comparing the two. Avoiding bans, blocks by users, and doxing are harassment. #IhateFallOut4AndTomHowardSmellsLikeOldSocks is not harassment. It's jeering. Deal with it. "That's when news media takes it upon itself to carry out boycott campaigns." Last time I checked boycotts are 100% legal unless we're talking about competing companies creating them. Then that's not just harassment, that's violating the basic principle of market structure. "That's when employers are contacted and people get fired or are forced to make groveling public apologies." How does boycotting and hashtagging become harassment? I really hate it when people conflate things here. Care to explain yourself? Because I see far too much dishonest language in your approach to this subject. Also, what the heck does this have to do with trigger warnings in college courses and censorship? I don't see any connection. I see people trying to dodge dog whistles here (i.e. cultural marxism, cryptofascism, and the like).
- 13thLetter 11y ago
  You skipped over the bit where people are fired or forced to make groveling public apologies.
  - norea-armozel 11y ago
    [Citation needed]

norea-armozel 11y ago

"That's when the mobs and hashtags and internet shaming campaigns come out." Let me stop you right there. Hashtags on Twitter or some other social media aren't harassment. I wish everyone would stop with comparing the two. Avoiding bans, blocks by users, and doxing are harassment. #IhateFallOut4AndTomHowardSmellsLikeOldSocks is not harassment. It's jeering. Deal with it. "That's when news media takes it upon itself to carry out boycott campaigns." Last time I checked boycotts are 100% legal unless we're talking about competing companies creating them. Then that's not just harassment, that's violating the basic principle of market structure. "That's when employers are contacted and people get fired or are forced to make groveling public apologies." How does boycotting and hashtagging become harassment? I really hate it when people conflate things here. Care to explain yourself? Because I see far too much dishonest language in your approach to this subject. Also, what the heck does this have to do with trigger warnings in college courses and censorship? I don't see any connection. I see people trying to dodge dog whistles here (i.e. cultural marxism, cryptofascism, and the like).

13thLetter 11y ago
You skipped over the bit where people are fired or forced to make groveling public apologies.
- norea-armozel 11y ago
  [Citation needed]