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I've already stated why it doesn't work. Human psychology towards progression and individual rights. Find us one that works. Then you'll see many other countri

I've already stated why it doesn't work. Human psychology towards progression and individual rights. Find us one that works. Then you'll see many other countries follow suit. You can then claim that "oh none have truly existed." And to that the answer is that's because it doesn't work in practice, so it devolves to dictatorships and oppression. If it were a winning combination the world would look that way. The world is not going towards a communist utopia because they are too easily corrupted. Communism at that scale sucks. Why not start your own communist group if you're hell bent on it. Shared ownership is not 'ownership' You don't "own" something if everyone owns it. That's ridiculous doublespeak.

ZenoArrow 11y ago
> "You can then claim that "oh none have truly existed." And to that the answer is that's because it doesn't work in practice, so it devolves to dictatorships and oppression." Okay then, point to one communist society that started out with shared ownership and devolved into a dictatorship. All the examples I know of started out with a ruling elite and stayed with a ruling elite, so I'm curious about which of these societies devolved over time. > "If it were a winning combination the world would look that way." We've barely begun to explore the possibilities of how societies can work. Furthermore, it's not exactly a common topic of debate in most people's social circles. If it'll take some working examples before people are open to new ideas, then so be it. > "Shared ownership is not 'ownership' You don't "own" something if everyone owns it. That's ridiculous doublespeak." People often need to relate something new to something they already understand. If the word ownership bothers you then you can drop it, the key word is shared. Communist societies share the resources that enable material wealth. > "Why not start your own communist group if you're hell bent on it." I do intend on living in an ecovillage one day, does that count?
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ZenoArrow 11y ago

> "You can then claim that "oh none have truly existed." And to that the answer is that's because it doesn't work in practice, so it devolves to dictatorships and oppression." Okay then, point to one communist society that started out with shared ownership and devolved into a dictatorship. All the examples I know of started out with a ruling elite and stayed with a ruling elite, so I'm curious about which of these societies devolved over time. > "If it were a winning combination the world would look that way." We've barely begun to explore the possibilities of how societies can work. Furthermore, it's not exactly a common topic of debate in most people's social circles. If it'll take some working examples before people are open to new ideas, then so be it. > "Shared ownership is not 'ownership' You don't "own" something if everyone owns it. That's ridiculous doublespeak." People often need to relate something new to something they already understand. If the word ownership bothers you then you can drop it, the key word is shared. Communist societies share the resources that enable material wealth. > "Why not start your own communist group if you're hell bent on it." I do intend on living in an ecovillage one day, does that count?

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