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Alright buddy, I don't want to get in a flame war here, but I'll summarize my arguments in short. A hits B. Hard. When B tries fighting back, A suggests the wo
by benten10 11y ago
Alright buddy, I don't want to get in a flame war here, but I'll summarize my arguments in short.
A hits B. Hard. When B tries fighting back, A suggests the world should be a fair place, and really, he doesn't support violence at all, and there should be global peace.
C turns D's family into indentured servants. When D becomes a part of a revolution, and tries to make sure no one from C's (or D's) side can do it again, C says "I'm all for equality yo, lets not be violent at each other".
F's people are particularly unfairly attacked by different members of G groups, which are in power in their country. A lot of F's die unfairly and prematurely, and are mistreated for no reason. When F's people say "our lives matter, be kinder to us", some people who are in G's side say: "hey F, ALL lives matter."
People called G's are unfairly discriminated against, overtly and covertly, but often very openly. They are called names, and their presence in public is often made very difficult, by people called H. So when G's get together and try to get this G-rights going, some H's say: "Hey, there should be equality. You shouldn't get special priviledges. If you are systematically prejudiced against, your bad, there should be equality okay". Lets call them HRA's. You are HRA, exo762.
- exo762 11y agoYour argument is in fact two arguments. First one is: "women are discriminated against". Second one is: "women are fighting back, men brought it onto themselves". So lets go through part one, "women are oppressed", point by point. > A hits B. Hard. ... Violence. 70% of non-reciprocal domestic violence is committed by women against men. Article [0]. Men are primary target of every police intervention, even if it was man who reported violence committed against him by his woman partner. Lookup Duluth model. And battered men has nowhere to go - there are no shelters for male victims of DV. > C turns D's family into indentured servants... Slavery? What? > ... members of G groups, which are in power in their country. ... "Men in power". Yeah, those who are in power are mostly men. But what good comes from it for men who are not in power? Majority of homeless are men; majority of prisoners are men; majority of unemployed are men; majority of victims of DV are men. Men get longer sentences for same crimes, women get suspended sentences for things men serve time. As for clear legal discrimination, there are multiple examples of it. Fathers' rights are a joke, draft is still for males only, selective service is for males only; men can't opt-out from parenthood, while options are available for women. As for legal discrimination of women - there is one clear-cut example and it is access to abortion. As for your second argument. "Men had it coming, now repent for your sins". This argument is dumb beyond recognition. Even Joseph Stalin said that "The son is not responsible for the father's deeds". You seems to be not agreeing with him on only thing everyone agrees with him. And you basically place blame ON HALF OF HUMANITY, collectively. Good job! [0] http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=a41532d6-d4df-46a2-a784-f6499938f3b0 http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id... If you want more sources, go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/faq https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/faq. FAQs don't bite, and I've spent enough time typing out this answer. EDIT: word of warning, /r/MensRights is a bad place, too much vitriol. Go to /r/FeMRADebates instead.
- lallysingh 11y agoThat's lovely, thank you. Upvoted.
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