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There was nothing contrasting in the original reply. Just sayin'.

by 23452436 11y ago

Retric 11y ago
Try rereading it, and note the words: "an Atoll" vs. "used to be an Atoll"
- ertyuiopas 11y ago
  In your original reply, your first sentence was false. Your second sentence was an unrelated truism. No contrast, no point in in adding the connecting "but".
  - Retric 11y ago
    Reading your other posts demonstrates you are clueless about this and other topics. I would suggest a lot more research using textbooks to get a basic understanding going of chemistry, english, physics, and geology.
    - 23452436 11y ago
      Find one error besides typos to back up your bloviating.
      - Retric 11y ago
        "CO2 isn't even the main greenhouse gas, that's water vapor." That's ridiculously false. Nitrogen is the main greenhouse gas. It's also stable and thus not an issue for climate change, but trying to correct someone whose basic understanding is false is not worth the effort.
        23452436 11y ago
        Reply to the above: Oh, you've built a climate model? Is it one of the ones that doesn't work? That'd be all of them. You're wrong about your correction and abuse won't substitute well. Now find an error or quitcher bloviating, bolviator.
        Retric 11y ago
        And you still can't find the reply button? Also, note climate models are one thing weather models are another and weather models clearly do work. PS: Thermodynamics really takes differential equations, and I suggest you read up on both of them.
        23452436 11y ago
        I'm replying in the only place the reply button shows up in the legacy browser where I am. You finally tried to make a point with hardly any "look up X, Y or Z that I know cuz I'm so smart" stuff, so I'll quote it here: "Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature." That's why N2 is not considered a greenhouse gas, because anything else replacing it would do as well or better (from the greenhouse gas POV). Now, instead of making stupid comments like: "you are clueless about this and other topics. I would suggest a lot more research using textbooks to get a basic understanding going of chemistry, english, physics, and geology", you should try reading a commenst and replying directly to the point at hand. After a while, you might learn something.
        23452436 11y ago
        Weather models work very well, for a few days. After that, not so much. A "Climate" model has to be correct for many years to acquire a measure of credibility. None of them have been correct even in the very short term. Instead of pretending you know what a partial differential equation is, changing the subject, and hurling abuse, how about you stay on topic and back up anything you've said to contradict me, bloviator?
      - 23452436 11y ago
        Reply to the statement just below: "Although contributing to many other physical and chemical reactions, the major atmospheric constituents, nitrogen (N2), oxygen (O2), and argon (Ar), are not greenhouse gases. This is because molecules containing two atoms of the same element such as N2 and O2 and monatomic molecules such as argon (Ar) have no net change in their dipole moment when they vibrate and hence are almost totally unaffected by infrared radiation." But do keep trying.
        Retric 11y ago
        Wikipedia is a great resource, though if you ever build a climate model you will find it wrong in this case. For clarity, one of the really important effects is reducing peak temperature as black body radiation is T^4. Thus nitrogen prevents IR radiation instead of absorbing it, though in either case it's still increasing average temperature. PS: Sorry, you could not find the reply button and feel the need for sock puppets.
        23452436 11y ago
        N2 has no net effect. That's why it's not considered a greenhouse gas. Stick with the accepted definitions (and get them right) and you'll eventually make a useful contribution. hint: pretending you know how to make a working climate model is not one.
        Retric 11y ago
        Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature. You clearly don't believe me, and are unwilling to do the research. But, think for a second, 78% of the atmosphere, zero net effect on temperature, or you’re using an overly simplified model. PS: I like most people did not build a weather model by myself. I did dig into one fairly deeply when looking into building a turn based civilization game, and I must say they get vastly more complex than you might think.
        23452436 11y ago

There was nothing contrasting in the original reply. Just sayin'.

Retric 11y ago

Try rereading it, and note the words: "an Atoll" vs. "used to be an Atoll"

ertyuiopas 11y ago
In your original reply, your first sentence was false. Your second sentence was an unrelated truism. No contrast, no point in in adding the connecting "but".
- Retric 11y ago
  Reading your other posts demonstrates you are clueless about this and other topics. I would suggest a lot more research using textbooks to get a basic understanding going of chemistry, english, physics, and geology.
  - 23452436 11y ago
    Find one error besides typos to back up your bloviating.
    - Retric 11y ago
      "CO2 isn't even the main greenhouse gas, that's water vapor." That's ridiculously false. Nitrogen is the main greenhouse gas. It's also stable and thus not an issue for climate change, but trying to correct someone whose basic understanding is false is not worth the effort.
      - 23452436 11y ago
        Reply to the above: Oh, you've built a climate model? Is it one of the ones that doesn't work? That'd be all of them. You're wrong about your correction and abuse won't substitute well. Now find an error or quitcher bloviating, bolviator.
        Retric 11y ago
        And you still can't find the reply button? Also, note climate models are one thing weather models are another and weather models clearly do work. PS: Thermodynamics really takes differential equations, and I suggest you read up on both of them.
        23452436 11y ago
        I'm replying in the only place the reply button shows up in the legacy browser where I am. You finally tried to make a point with hardly any "look up X, Y or Z that I know cuz I'm so smart" stuff, so I'll quote it here: "Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature." That's why N2 is not considered a greenhouse gas, because anything else replacing it would do as well or better (from the greenhouse gas POV). Now, instead of making stupid comments like: "you are clueless about this and other topics. I would suggest a lot more research using textbooks to get a basic understanding going of chemistry, english, physics, and geology", you should try reading a commenst and replying directly to the point at hand. After a while, you might learn something.
      - 23452436 11y ago
        Weather models work very well, for a few days. After that, not so much. A "Climate" model has to be correct for many years to acquire a measure of credibility. None of them have been correct even in the very short term. Instead of pretending you know what a partial differential equation is, changing the subject, and hurling abuse, how about you stay on topic and back up anything you've said to contradict me, bloviator?
    - 23452436 11y ago
      Reply to the statement just below: "Although contributing to many other physical and chemical reactions, the major atmospheric constituents, nitrogen (N2), oxygen (O2), and argon (Ar), are not greenhouse gases. This is because molecules containing two atoms of the same element such as N2 and O2 and monatomic molecules such as argon (Ar) have no net change in their dipole moment when they vibrate and hence are almost totally unaffected by infrared radiation." But do keep trying.
      - Retric 11y ago
        Wikipedia is a great resource, though if you ever build a climate model you will find it wrong in this case. For clarity, one of the really important effects is reducing peak temperature as black body radiation is T^4. Thus nitrogen prevents IR radiation instead of absorbing it, though in either case it's still increasing average temperature. PS: Sorry, you could not find the reply button and feel the need for sock puppets.
        23452436 11y ago
        N2 has no net effect. That's why it's not considered a greenhouse gas. Stick with the accepted definitions (and get them right) and you'll eventually make a useful contribution. hint: pretending you know how to make a working climate model is not one.
        Retric 11y ago
        Remove N2 without replacing it with something else and the earth would have a much lower average temperature. You clearly don't believe me, and are unwilling to do the research. But, think for a second, 78% of the atmosphere, zero net effect on temperature, or you’re using an overly simplified model. PS: I like most people did not build a weather model by myself. I did dig into one fairly deeply when looking into building a turn based civilization game, and I must say they get vastly more complex than you might think.
        23452436 11y ago