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yes, downvote instead of answering the question.

hobs 11y ago
While there are dozens of answers to your strawman, here is a simple one: Black people are not responsible for the safety of the citizenry, black people are not defined by the need to protect and serve us, black people are in fact, just people. Cops on the other hand are responsible for the safety of the citizenry, are given special powers due to the additional trust and responsibility we (all the other people) grant them. The comparison is ridiculous.
- pandaman 11y ago
  >The comparison is ridiculous. Indeed. It's very rare for people to call local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs when police breaks into their house. The opposite, though, happens all the time.
  - subsection1h 11y ago
    The NCAAP, BLM, ACORN, and "other black orgs" break into houses "all the time"? WTF.
    - pandaman 11y ago
      BLM certainly does so do gangs. The point is though that police provides services that Blacks don't. Nobody has been comparing them and the GGP pointed out the bigotry of the statement "the police perpetuates crime".
  - rmxt 11y ago
    Do you have evidence or are you just smearing people and groups for the sake of your argument? "Gangs commit crime" is sort of a truism, but for the others... that's going to take some evidence.
    - pandaman 11y ago
      Others represent Blacks in general or black criminals in case of #BLM. Do you require evidence to find that black criminals commit home invasions or you are just trolling?
      - rmxt 11y ago
        I am asking you to provide evidence that "#BLM", if it can even really be considered a cohesive movement with a defined purpose, supports or performs home invasions. And, evidence that the NAACP openly supports or harbors criminals would be welcome, too. I'll be waiting, but not holding my breath. At a minimum, your statement lacks nuance. At worst, and more likely, it is factually incorrect and smears groups with legitimate goals.
        pandaman 11y ago
        I don't think you are arguing in good faith judging by the size of strawman you have to build.
        rmxt 11y ago
        There is no strawman. This is the claim that you've made: "The opposite, though, happens all the time." The original claim is 'police break into houses and no one calls local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs.' The opposite claim is therefore that '"local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs" break into houses and people call the police'. I've conceded that local gangs may break into houses, and now I'm asking you to justify the assertion that "NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs" (it's NAACP, BTW) break into houses. Do you have sources that show that people operating under the NCAAP/#BLM banner actually break into houses? If you don't have information that suggests that, why do you make such an offhanded claim? How is this trolling? How is this not a good faith argument? My distillation of your claims is that "blacks commit crimes, so black special interest groups must also be bastions of criminality." If that's not your point, then what is?
        11y ago

hobs 11y ago

While there are dozens of answers to your strawman, here is a simple one: Black people are not responsible for the safety of the citizenry, black people are not defined by the need to protect and serve us, black people are in fact, just people. Cops on the other hand are responsible for the safety of the citizenry, are given special powers due to the additional trust and responsibility we (all the other people) grant them. The comparison is ridiculous.

pandaman 11y ago
>The comparison is ridiculous. Indeed. It's very rare for people to call local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs when police breaks into their house. The opposite, though, happens all the time.
- subsection1h 11y ago
  The NCAAP, BLM, ACORN, and "other black orgs" break into houses "all the time"? WTF.
  - pandaman 11y ago
    BLM certainly does so do gangs. The point is though that police provides services that Blacks don't. Nobody has been comparing them and the GGP pointed out the bigotry of the statement "the police perpetuates crime".
- rmxt 11y ago
  Do you have evidence or are you just smearing people and groups for the sake of your argument? "Gangs commit crime" is sort of a truism, but for the others... that's going to take some evidence.
  - pandaman 11y ago
    Others represent Blacks in general or black criminals in case of #BLM. Do you require evidence to find that black criminals commit home invasions or you are just trolling?
    - rmxt 11y ago
      I am asking you to provide evidence that "#BLM", if it can even really be considered a cohesive movement with a defined purpose, supports or performs home invasions. And, evidence that the NAACP openly supports or harbors criminals would be welcome, too. I'll be waiting, but not holding my breath. At a minimum, your statement lacks nuance. At worst, and more likely, it is factually incorrect and smears groups with legitimate goals.
      - pandaman 11y ago
        I don't think you are arguing in good faith judging by the size of strawman you have to build.
        rmxt 11y ago
        There is no strawman. This is the claim that you've made: "The opposite, though, happens all the time." The original claim is 'police break into houses and no one calls local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs.' The opposite claim is therefore that '"local gang/NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs" break into houses and people call the police'. I've conceded that local gangs may break into houses, and now I'm asking you to justify the assertion that "NCAAP/#BLM/ACORN/other black orgs" (it's NAACP, BTW) break into houses. Do you have sources that show that people operating under the NCAAP/#BLM banner actually break into houses? If you don't have information that suggests that, why do you make such an offhanded claim? How is this trolling? How is this not a good faith argument? My distillation of your claims is that "blacks commit crimes, so black special interest groups must also be bastions of criminality." If that's not your point, then what is?
        11y ago