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> even wealthy people who support public transit in general, don't want public transit near them. This seems very odd to me. Here in the Netherlands, housing p

by donkeyd 11y ago

> even wealthy people who support public transit in general, don't want public transit near them. This seems very odd to me. Here in the Netherlands, housing prices actually increase when there's good public transport. In the north of Amsterdam a new metro line is being built, which is already causing an increase in housing prices there.

simoncion 11y ago
Yep. Here in SF, housing is more expensive when it's near a subway station.
zzleeper 11y ago
It's odd but true. For instance, biking to school or work in the US means you are kinda poor or a cheapskate (not for everyone, and not in densely populated cities such as DC/Arlington, SF, NYC and Perhaps Boston) On the other hand, in Europe I've seen deans biking to school and the feeling is exactly the opposite ("wow that's so cool!") Sorry for generalizing, but that was what I saw, having lived on both sides
iso8859-1 11y ago
A reference for Toronto: http://www.metronews.ca/views/toronto/condo-trends/2015/02/19/buying-a-toronto-condo-close-to-the-subway-will-cost-you-more.html http://www.metronews.ca/views/toronto/condo-trends/2015/02/1...
roel_v 11y ago
Really? Have you ever tried to get from the train station of, say, Blaricum or Bloemendaal to anywhere else there? 'Wealthy' people don't live in houses whose prices are affected by availability of public transport, in the Netherlands. (OTOH I wouldn't say that they 'don't want PT near them', but then again that's not really true for other places either).
- donkeyd 11y ago
  This is true, but we're talking SF & LA here, metropolitan areas. Blaricum is better compared to something like the Hamptons. There is no public transport because there's space to park cars, so public transportation is not necessary and it's impractical since the population is spread out. The Apollobuurt in Amsterdam is also full of rich people and yet there's a lot of public transportation. The people living there are not against public transportation though.

by donkeyd 11y ago

simoncion 11y ago

Yep. Here in SF, housing is more expensive when it's near a subway station.

zzleeper 11y ago

It's odd but true. For instance, biking to school or work in the US means you are kinda poor or a cheapskate (not for everyone, and not in densely populated cities such as DC/Arlington, SF, NYC and Perhaps Boston) On the other hand, in Europe I've seen deans biking to school and the feeling is exactly the opposite ("wow that's so cool!") Sorry for generalizing, but that was what I saw, having lived on both sides

iso8859-1 11y ago

A reference for Toronto: http://www.metronews.ca/views/toronto/condo-trends/2015/02/19/buying-a-toronto-condo-close-to-the-subway-will-cost-you-more.html http://www.metronews.ca/views/toronto/condo-trends/2015/02/1...

roel_v 11y ago

Really? Have you ever tried to get from the train station of, say, Blaricum or Bloemendaal to anywhere else there? 'Wealthy' people don't live in houses whose prices are affected by availability of public transport, in the Netherlands. (OTOH I wouldn't say that they 'don't want PT near them', but then again that's not really true for other places either).

donkeyd 11y ago
This is true, but we're talking SF & LA here, metropolitan areas. Blaricum is better compared to something like the Hamptons. There is no public transport because there's space to park cars, so public transportation is not necessary and it's impractical since the population is spread out. The Apollobuurt in Amsterdam is also full of rich people and yet there's a lot of public transportation. The people living there are not against public transportation though.