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1) The analysis here is conducted by a pretty biased source: a former cop 2) his data is fed by news reports which may not evenly cover actual incidents 3) 25%

by dweinus 11y ago

1) The analysis here is conducted by a pretty biased source: a former cop 2) his data is fed by news reports which may not evenly cover actual incidents 3) 25% of the data lacks racial info at all 4) The likelihood of biased policing being a factor in higher reported African American crime rates completely undercuts the conclusion he reaches Put another way: there are at least 2 layers of biases that occured before Mr. Moskos even touched the data.

_quasar 11y ago
> 1) The analysis here is conducted by a pretty biased source: a former cop OK > 2) his data is fed by news reports which may not evenly cover actual incidents OK, although I doubt white deaths are reported LESS than black deaths (nothing to support it) > 3) 25% of the data lacks racial info at all OK, but this won't affect conclusion that much. Even if all those incidents involve black subject, it won't affect the conclusion. > 4) the likelihood of biased policing being a factor in higher reported African American crime rates completely undercuts the conclusion he reaches https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/... Of the 12,664 murders 4,077 were cases where offender's race was unknown leaving 8,587. Males were responsible for about 90%. 90% of 8,587= 7,728 US murders we know to be committed by males. White males committed 45.2% of 7,728 murders which = 3,143 murders. Black males committed 52.4% of 7,728 murders which = 4,049 murders. Black males make up 7% of this nation's population with about 19m individuals. White males make up about 28% of this nation's population with about 112m individuals. Odds of a white man being a murderer: 1 in 35,634. Odds of a black man being a murderer: 1 in 4,693. African American male is 9 times more likely to commit homicide. It's very unlikely that biased policing is the cause of 9x homicide conviction rate.

by dweinus 11y ago

_quasar 11y ago

> 1) The analysis here is conducted by a pretty biased source: a former cop OK > 2) his data is fed by news reports which may not evenly cover actual incidents OK, although I doubt white deaths are reported LESS than black deaths (nothing to support it) > 3) 25% of the data lacks racial info at all OK, but this won't affect conclusion that much. Even if all those incidents involve black subject, it won't affect the conclusion. > 4) the likelihood of biased policing being a factor in higher reported African American crime rates completely undercuts the conclusion he reaches https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/... Of the 12,664 murders 4,077 were cases where offender's race was unknown leaving 8,587. Males were responsible for about 90%. 90% of 8,587= 7,728 US murders we know to be committed by males. White males committed 45.2% of 7,728 murders which = 3,143 murders. Black males committed 52.4% of 7,728 murders which = 4,049 murders. Black males make up 7% of this nation's population with about 19m individuals. White males make up about 28% of this nation's population with about 112m individuals. Odds of a white man being a murderer: 1 in 35,634. Odds of a black man being a murderer: 1 in 4,693. African American male is 9 times more likely to commit homicide. It's very unlikely that biased policing is the cause of 9x homicide conviction rate.