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I am most amazed that the technocrats who were sent copies of this book anonymously all decry that it's probably some kind of marketing. Alexis Madrigal: “It’s
by DaveWalk 11y ago
I am most amazed that the technocrats who were sent copies of this book anonymously all decry that it's probably some kind of marketing. Alexis Madrigal: “It’s so weird in this day and age to just do an art project.”
Seriously!? People are doing pure art projects every minute -- they're call artists! I feel like this would make Mark Twain smile, like writing satire about a dimwitted socialite, who then reads it and thinks the book is great because it's obviously about someone else.
- famousactress 11y agoLiterally the only reality that makes that quote not incredibly depressing is the one where Alexis is the author of the book and his response is also a part of the larger satirical project.
- dang 11y agoWell that takes the Principle of Charity to a new level.
- alexismadrigal 11y agoHah. Dude, this was an unbelievably labor intensive project. I have an editorial team to run, a 2-year-old, and another baby on the way. There is no fucking way I could have executed this thing, even if I wanted to.
- famousactress 11y agoWell then with all due respect, I'm back to just being really sad that someone could say that.
- alexismadrigal 11y agoSee my comments further down: I was summarizing the way other people reacted to the book. That context was lost. I found the attitude depressing, too, then got it attributed to me in the New York Times. :shruggie:
- ritchiea 11y agoSo your quote is incredibly depressing then. At least that's cleared up. You do know that there are still artists in the world right? And some of them have even heard of Silicon Valley and startups?
- licoricetic 11y agoAlexis is right though. Nowadays most art projects are actually a hook for a Kickstarter or something.
- koko775 11y agoWhat makes you think so? Out of all of the art that is done I am pretty sure only a portion are a hook for a Kickstarter or marketing material.
- Gnewt 11y agoCareful of the huge confirmation bias inherent in the art you see vs. the art that's being created. Your spheres (not you specifically -- all of HN) likely tend toward exposing you to those kinds of projects.
- goldenkey 11y agoThis one definitely isn't.. http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/feb/05/petr-pavlensky-nailed-scrotum-red-square http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/feb/05/petr-pav... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/russian-artist-pyotr-pavlensky-sets-fire-to-fsb-hq http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/russian-artist-... Most worthwhile art is done by people who look at life as a different type of quantity. Whether valued higher or lower, the different outlook is really what makes for interesting art.
- theoh 11y ago... Or even, dare I say it, look at life as quality not quantity, as something unquantifiable? (You could have chosen a less contentious example of a meritorious practicing artist :-)
- goldenkey 11y agoI'd say just the concept of Russian Roulette is art in itself. Thereby the artist I referenced above is not very contentious. He is risking his life for a message - that gamble with life is art. On the same note, what may be more contentious is the art of crime. The art of murder. The art of Sherlock Holmes deciphering the creative tendencies behind the craftiest of criminals. Murderers. Thieves. Are terrorists also artists? That my friend, is contentious.
- mturmon 11y agoIt must have been taken out of context, because it is a ridiculous quote as it stands. Common occurrence for these quickie interviews.
- dang 11y agoMaybe we should respond to this by finding interesting art projects and posting them to HN. A few get posted already, but we could use more.