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lionhearted is not a troll. What he is saying it is actually resonated with what I think/do also. BTW. My friends and I use the same term too. "Quality Woma

by ardit33 17y ago

lionhearted is not a troll. What he is saying it is actually resonated with what I think/do also. BTW. My friends and I use the same term too. "Quality Woman": Is a girl/woman that is well educated, cute, nice, not with a huge self sense of entitlement, and a good personality. Basically a woman that has her shit together, not bitchy, and is cute at the same time. So instead of having a whole paragraph to describe her, just saying 'quality', and my friend will understand it immediately. They are actually pretty rare in the US, especially single. I don't know why, but European girls seem to be a lot balanced in general. Maybe saying she is a great girl will be less offensive to few people? But whatever, life is short, so I am not going to live myself to appease everybody.

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plinkplonk 17y ago
"lionhearted is not a troll. What he is saying it is actually resonated with what I think/do also." A troll is as troll does. And this isn't about whether the two of you share some weird notion of "quality" in women. If you do, take it off line. This sexist claptrap doesn't belong on HN. "I prefer taller women, and I prefer women who are built strong with good musculature, athletes, and girls with wider hips and shoulders." Does anybody care a damn what someone's sexual preferences are like? This is borderline locker room conversation - discussion of "long thin athletic" women, sexual history paraded as "education" for other readers, challenges to other people to compare their sexual lives with his (e.g:- "if you want to talk about relative social lives, sex lives, and dating lives, I'm happy to go there . We could compare and contrast, if you like, how your politically correct pseudo-chivalry is working vs. my slightly more gritty candidness") Gritty candidness my foot! This sounds like juvenile frat boy crap to me. It doesn't matter whether you have the same tastes. I just happen to think such crudity should be kept off HN. If I am in the minority, so be it. Nothing prevents the lot of you from forming a private mailing list and exchanging vapid theories of "quality women". Or are you saying your sexual fantasies and theories are of "intellectual interest to hackers"?
- FooBarWidget 17y ago
  I am more disturbed by your accusation of the (grand)parent being sexist than by the contents of their posts. You kinda sound like someone who would accuse people of being "sexist" because they use the word "mankind" instead of "humankind".
  - camccann 17y ago
    Fun fact: Did you know that the word "man" was originally sex-neutral? The generic term was co-opted for the specifically male sense centuries ago and the original masculine term mostly disappeared. So, fight sexism by using "man" in the gender neutral sense! Reclaim the language! (If you're wondering, the old terms were something like wer and wyf, prefixed to the generic "man". The latter obviously relates to "wife" and the compound wyfman shifted into the modern "woman". The compound werman disappeared, while the prefix remains only in terms like "werewolf", which is thus literally "man-wolf" in the distinctly masculine sense.)
- enneff 17y ago
  "Does anybody care a damn what someone's sexual preferences are like?" Who's the troll now? This discussion is clearly related to the article.
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foldr 17y ago
>They are actually pretty rare in the US, especially single. I think this is exactly the kind of attitude that some of us object to. Basically, a bunch of guys sitting around passing judgment on all the women in the world, concluding that hardly any of them are worthy of their (presumably much sought-after) affections. For me, your explanation of what is meant by "quality" basically pushes all the buttons that the OP did.
electromagnetic 17y ago
Being from the UK, and having travelled Europe, the women aren't any different in any appreciable way. The only main difference between an 'American' girl and any other is the lower educational standard in the US. [Ed: However, with a smaller percentile of highly educated males, this shouldn't really be a major problem for the vast majority of people.] I would also give a caveat, in continental Europe it's a more acceptable social norm for women to groom less. I'm not necessarily talking about the underarms (I've actually seen this less in Europe than I have elsewhere), but facial and leg hair. This can get bad with more southern-European where hair colour tends to be darker. I groom my facial hair, and if I need to I groom my body hair (I have a mildly hairy back, which I personally dislike so it gets shaved) too. So I personally believe it's common courtesy for a woman to do it too.

by ardit33 17y ago

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plinkplonk 17y ago

"lionhearted is not a troll. What he is saying it is actually resonated with what I think/do also." A troll is as troll does. And this isn't about whether the two of you share some weird notion of "quality" in women. If you do, take it off line. This sexist claptrap doesn't belong on HN. "I prefer taller women, and I prefer women who are built strong with good musculature, athletes, and girls with wider hips and shoulders." Does anybody care a damn what someone's sexual preferences are like? This is borderline locker room conversation - discussion of "long thin athletic" women, sexual history paraded as "education" for other readers, challenges to other people to compare their sexual lives with his (e.g:- "if you want to talk about relative social lives, sex lives, and dating lives, I'm happy to go there . We could compare and contrast, if you like, how your politically correct pseudo-chivalry is working vs. my slightly more gritty candidness") Gritty candidness my foot! This sounds like juvenile frat boy crap to me. It doesn't matter whether you have the same tastes. I just happen to think such crudity should be kept off HN. If I am in the minority, so be it. Nothing prevents the lot of you from forming a private mailing list and exchanging vapid theories of "quality women". Or are you saying your sexual fantasies and theories are of "intellectual interest to hackers"?

FooBarWidget 17y ago
I am more disturbed by your accusation of the (grand)parent being sexist than by the contents of their posts. You kinda sound like someone who would accuse people of being "sexist" because they use the word "mankind" instead of "humankind".
- camccann 17y ago
  Fun fact: Did you know that the word "man" was originally sex-neutral? The generic term was co-opted for the specifically male sense centuries ago and the original masculine term mostly disappeared. So, fight sexism by using "man" in the gender neutral sense! Reclaim the language! (If you're wondering, the old terms were something like wer and wyf, prefixed to the generic "man". The latter obviously relates to "wife" and the compound wyfman shifted into the modern "woman". The compound werman disappeared, while the prefix remains only in terms like "werewolf", which is thus literally "man-wolf" in the distinctly masculine sense.)
enneff 17y ago
"Does anybody care a damn what someone's sexual preferences are like?" Who's the troll now? This discussion is clearly related to the article.
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foldr 17y ago

>They are actually pretty rare in the US, especially single. I think this is exactly the kind of attitude that some of us object to. Basically, a bunch of guys sitting around passing judgment on all the women in the world, concluding that hardly any of them are worthy of their (presumably much sought-after) affections. For me, your explanation of what is meant by "quality" basically pushes all the buttons that the OP did.

electromagnetic 17y ago

Being from the UK, and having travelled Europe, the women aren't any different in any appreciable way. The only main difference between an 'American' girl and any other is the lower educational standard in the US. [Ed: However, with a smaller percentile of highly educated males, this shouldn't really be a major problem for the vast majority of people.] I would also give a caveat, in continental Europe it's a more acceptable social norm for women to groom less. I'm not necessarily talking about the underarms (I've actually seen this less in Europe than I have elsewhere), but facial and leg hair. This can get bad with more southern-European where hair colour tends to be darker. I groom my facial hair, and if I need to I groom my body hair (I have a mildly hairy back, which I personally dislike so it gets shaved) too. So I personally believe it's common courtesy for a woman to do it too.