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Not entirely sure what all you're getting at, but you don't find conservatives running around offended that you said "estate tax" instead of "death tax" or, mor

Not entirely sure what all you're getting at, but you don't find conservatives running around offended that you said "estate tax" instead of "death tax" or, more importantly, trying to make others use their preferred euphemism. Having said that, I fully admit there may be a few phrases that conservatives might be a bit sensitive to, but it would surely be a very short list.

dragonwriter 11y ago
Yes, actually, I do see conservatives running around upset because people don't use the correct conservative propaganda terms to describe things, our reading against people for using certain words or not using certain preferred words just about every day (one of the joys of having a politically drivers Facebook circle); these only difference abroad the political spectrum that I see on that issue, besides the particular preferred terms, is that on the right there ideas more offense at people not using favored terms, and on the left there is more offense at people using disfavored terms. But there's offense at both on both sides.
MisterBastahrd 11y ago
Why do they call it the Death Tax? Why do they call the lobbying for prevention of medical treatment for women, Pro-life? Why can't they call the opposition party by their actual name?
- aggieben 11y ago
  Why do they call it the Death Tax? ...because the estate tax has the effect of being a tax on dying. Why do they call the lobbying for prevention of medical treatment for women, Pro-life? Because we think elective abortions (almost all abortions are elective) are not medical treatment, but rather a barbaric practice in which one person is killed for the convenience of the other, and in most cases is harmful in the long-term to the survivor as well. I feel strongly about this, but I'm not upset by people who want to call me "anti-abortion", because I am. Why can't they call the opposition party by their actual name? Uh....what? Do you mean "the Democratic Party" as opposed to the "Democrat Party"? I think that one is better chalked up to colloquial speech, regardless of what the Wikipedia article says. But like I said - being a lifelong Republican and conservative activist, I know exactly zero people who would be upset if you didn't say "death tax", "pro-life", or "Democrat Party" (or PPACA instead of ObamaCare).
  - MisterBastahrd 11y ago
    ... because "estate tax" is a tax on wealth. ... because controlling women is what Republicans want to do. You have to go into very modern religious nonsense to come up with an idea that a fetus is a person, and you've decided that politicians should have more say over a woman's health than her doctor. ... because you hate the idea that a political party could seem "democratic." Sorry, but peddle that hilarious dishonesty elsewhere. It might fly in Texas, but it makes no actual sense.
    - aggieben 11y ago
      1. I said "effectively" a tax on death, because it's levied at the time of wealth transfer, which is almost always at death. 2. There is blaring, obvious religious justification for considering conception to be the beginning of life, and it has a high degree of consistency in logic and basic medical observation. Arguing that life begins at some other (arbitrary) point is a loser's game, my friend, and it comes right out of a post-modern nihilistic nonsense. Being anti-abortion has everything to do with protecting the rights of the child because that child is a person, and nothing whatsoever to do with controlling women, except to the extent it's required to protect the life of the child. 3. Because....what? If that's not manufactured outrage, then I don't know what is. Seriously. I think it's highly likely that most people refer to the Democratic party as the Democrat party because "democrat" is the noun that the adjective "democratic" comes from, and is the grammatically proper way to refer to someone who is a member of the Democratic party (as a "democrat"). All of this really kind of proves my point, I think: I nor any conservative that I know are upset that you don't describe things using our preferred terminology, but you seem to be upset (accusing me of dishonesty seems pretty upset to me) that I decline to use yours. Seems like a one-way street to me.

dragonwriter 11y ago

Yes, actually, I do see conservatives running around upset because people don't use the correct conservative propaganda terms to describe things, our reading against people for using certain words or not using certain preferred words just about every day (one of the joys of having a politically drivers Facebook circle); these only difference abroad the political spectrum that I see on that issue, besides the particular preferred terms, is that on the right there ideas more offense at people not using favored terms, and on the left there is more offense at people using disfavored terms. But there's offense at both on both sides.

MisterBastahrd 11y ago

Why do they call it the Death Tax? Why do they call the lobbying for prevention of medical treatment for women, Pro-life? Why can't they call the opposition party by their actual name?

aggieben 11y ago
Why do they call it the Death Tax? ...because the estate tax has the effect of being a tax on dying. Why do they call the lobbying for prevention of medical treatment for women, Pro-life? Because we think elective abortions (almost all abortions are elective) are not medical treatment, but rather a barbaric practice in which one person is killed for the convenience of the other, and in most cases is harmful in the long-term to the survivor as well. I feel strongly about this, but I'm not upset by people who want to call me "anti-abortion", because I am. Why can't they call the opposition party by their actual name? Uh....what? Do you mean "the Democratic Party" as opposed to the "Democrat Party"? I think that one is better chalked up to colloquial speech, regardless of what the Wikipedia article says. But like I said - being a lifelong Republican and conservative activist, I know exactly zero people who would be upset if you didn't say "death tax", "pro-life", or "Democrat Party" (or PPACA instead of ObamaCare).
- MisterBastahrd 11y ago
  ... because "estate tax" is a tax on wealth. ... because controlling women is what Republicans want to do. You have to go into very modern religious nonsense to come up with an idea that a fetus is a person, and you've decided that politicians should have more say over a woman's health than her doctor. ... because you hate the idea that a political party could seem "democratic." Sorry, but peddle that hilarious dishonesty elsewhere. It might fly in Texas, but it makes no actual sense.
  - aggieben 11y ago
    1. I said "effectively" a tax on death, because it's levied at the time of wealth transfer, which is almost always at death. 2. There is blaring, obvious religious justification for considering conception to be the beginning of life, and it has a high degree of consistency in logic and basic medical observation. Arguing that life begins at some other (arbitrary) point is a loser's game, my friend, and it comes right out of a post-modern nihilistic nonsense. Being anti-abortion has everything to do with protecting the rights of the child because that child is a person, and nothing whatsoever to do with controlling women, except to the extent it's required to protect the life of the child. 3. Because....what? If that's not manufactured outrage, then I don't know what is. Seriously. I think it's highly likely that most people refer to the Democratic party as the Democrat party because "democrat" is the noun that the adjective "democratic" comes from, and is the grammatically proper way to refer to someone who is a member of the Democratic party (as a "democrat"). All of this really kind of proves my point, I think: I nor any conservative that I know are upset that you don't describe things using our preferred terminology, but you seem to be upset (accusing me of dishonesty seems pretty upset to me) that I decline to use yours. Seems like a one-way street to me.