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This is a really important observation. Also, in the US, it's quite relevant to the current state of political rhetoric - I know the 'outrage half-life' is pret

This is a really important observation. Also, in the US, it's quite relevant to the current state of political rhetoric - I know the 'outrage half-life' is pretty short these days, but pointing to the Starbucks Red Cup "manufactured controversy" can, I think, reasonably be referenced to illustrate the hypocritical victimization tendency alive and well in modern (fundamentalist-oriented) Christianity. I think it's no coincidence that OKWU's official stance would be to decry "victim culture" when convenient, and embrace it when expected to conform to the will of society at large (e.g. Hobby Lobby vs. Obamacare).

ctdonath 11y ago
The "red cup controversy" wasn't "alive and well in modern Christianity" as there was no actual outrage about the cup, only self-congratulatory outrage by others against the presumed & imputed anti-red-cup outrage which didn't actually exist. What's telling is how many people were quick to sneer at a group for doing something they didn't do.
- 6stringmerc 11y ago
  Uh, it's an indicator. Goes alongside the "War on Christmas" narrative that has been, ahem, alive and well in modern Christianity. Would you prefer a citation of the growing frequency of political grand-standing of forbidding "Sharia Law" in predominately Christain districts?
  - licoricetic 11y ago
    Saying "War on Christmas is alive and well in Christianity" is like saying "Daesh is alive and well in Islam". It is smearing a much larger group for the misbehavior of a small segment of demagogue extremists.
    - Retra 11y ago
      "Small Segment" indeed: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/august-2015-ratings-fox-news-1-in-all-primetime-cable-msnbc-last-in-demo/ http://www.mediaite.com/tv/august-2015-ratings-fox-news-1-in...
      - licoricetic 11y ago
        Watching FoxNews is not the same as espousing all its broadcasted opinions.
  - ctdonath 11y ago
    I'll take your insistence on bashing modern Christianity with whatever you can (red cup, Christmas, politics, Sharia) as an indicator of something all right.

ctdonath 11y ago

The "red cup controversy" wasn't "alive and well in modern Christianity" as there was no actual outrage about the cup, only self-congratulatory outrage by others against the presumed & imputed anti-red-cup outrage which didn't actually exist. What's telling is how many people were quick to sneer at a group for doing something they didn't do.

6stringmerc 11y ago
Uh, it's an indicator. Goes alongside the "War on Christmas" narrative that has been, ahem, alive and well in modern Christianity. Would you prefer a citation of the growing frequency of political grand-standing of forbidding "Sharia Law" in predominately Christain districts?
- licoricetic 11y ago
  Saying "War on Christmas is alive and well in Christianity" is like saying "Daesh is alive and well in Islam". It is smearing a much larger group for the misbehavior of a small segment of demagogue extremists.
  - Retra 11y ago
    "Small Segment" indeed: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/august-2015-ratings-fox-news-1-in-all-primetime-cable-msnbc-last-in-demo/ http://www.mediaite.com/tv/august-2015-ratings-fox-news-1-in...
    - licoricetic 11y ago
      Watching FoxNews is not the same as espousing all its broadcasted opinions.
- ctdonath 11y ago
  I'll take your insistence on bashing modern Christianity with whatever you can (red cup, Christmas, politics, Sharia) as an indicator of something all right.