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Because mobs like these are totally open to intellectual discourse and reason. If only the professor had done more to be courteous and empathize with the studen

by asift 11y ago

Because mobs like these are totally open to intellectual discourse and reason. If only the professor had done more to be courteous and empathize with the students' desired ends /s http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-intolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-... But to your point, passing the Ideological Turing Test is something that I think is worth aspiring to. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_Turing_Test https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_Turing_Test

mavhc 11y ago
Not really helping your case by using the pro Hitler, pro killing gay babies, Daily Mail though.
- asift 11y ago
  I just copied and pasted the first thing that came up on Google. I replaced it with The Atlantic for you :-)
- pc86 11y ago
  Please post a source for the pro Hitler comment, at least.
  - Robin_Message 11y ago
    It sounded like hyperbole to me too, but then I remembered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Rise_of_fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Rise_of_fascism The owner in 1933 at least was a strong supporter of fascism in general, and Hitler in particular.
    - pc86 11y ago
      OK not that I'm excusing it, but there's quite a difference between someone in 1933 (who died in 1940) supporting Hitler (who, at that time, had quite a bit of popular support), and an institution in 2015 being "pro-Hitler." This may be the very definition of hyperbole. Taking something that is barely technically accurate and distorting it to the point where it doesn't mean even close to the same thing anymore. EDIT: From the link: > The Daily Mail, devised by Alfred Harmsworth (later Lord Northcliffe) and his brother Harold (later Lord Rothermere), was first published on 4 May 1896. > Lord Rothermere was a friend of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, and directed the Mail's editorial stance towards them in the early 1930s. > Born 1868; Died 1940[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harmsworth,_1st_Viscount_Rothermere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harmsworth,_1st_Viscoun...
      - Robin_Message 11y ago
        Yeap, fair enough (I thought the same). It's still a pretty bad newspaper though; I think it would be fair to say it hasn't gone far uphill since then.
    - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
      > The owner in 1933 at least was a strong supporter of fascism in general, and Hitler in particular. So was the royal family at the time: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/6548665/Their-Royal-Heilnesses.html http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/6548665/The...
thwarted 11y ago
The Ideological Turing Test is inteinteresting. I wonder how applying it to the content of The Colbert Report, and the character Colbert played on the show, would result. IIRC, someone had done some impromptu, unscientific person-on-the-street interviews to determine his political affiliation, and he came off as sincere to those who self-identified as conservative and mocking conservatives to self-identified liberals.

by asift 11y ago

mavhc 11y ago

Not really helping your case by using the pro Hitler, pro killing gay babies, Daily Mail though.

asift 11y ago
I just copied and pasted the first thing that came up on Google. I replaced it with The Atlantic for you :-)
pc86 11y ago
Please post a source for the pro Hitler comment, at least.
- Robin_Message 11y ago
  It sounded like hyperbole to me too, but then I remembered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Rise_of_fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Rise_of_fascism The owner in 1933 at least was a strong supporter of fascism in general, and Hitler in particular.
  - pc86 11y ago
    OK not that I'm excusing it, but there's quite a difference between someone in 1933 (who died in 1940) supporting Hitler (who, at that time, had quite a bit of popular support), and an institution in 2015 being "pro-Hitler." This may be the very definition of hyperbole. Taking something that is barely technically accurate and distorting it to the point where it doesn't mean even close to the same thing anymore. EDIT: From the link: > The Daily Mail, devised by Alfred Harmsworth (later Lord Northcliffe) and his brother Harold (later Lord Rothermere), was first published on 4 May 1896. > Lord Rothermere was a friend of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, and directed the Mail's editorial stance towards them in the early 1930s. > Born 1868; Died 1940[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harmsworth,_1st_Viscount_Rothermere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harmsworth,_1st_Viscoun...
    - Robin_Message 11y ago
      Yeap, fair enough (I thought the same). It's still a pretty bad newspaper though; I think it would be fair to say it hasn't gone far uphill since then.
  - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
    > The owner in 1933 at least was a strong supporter of fascism in general, and Hitler in particular. So was the royal family at the time: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/6548665/Their-Royal-Heilnesses.html http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/6548665/The...

thwarted 11y ago

The Ideological Turing Test is inteinteresting. I wonder how applying it to the content of The Colbert Report, and the character Colbert played on the show, would result. IIRC, someone had done some impromptu, unscientific person-on-the-street interviews to determine his political affiliation, and he came off as sincere to those who self-identified as conservative and mocking conservatives to self-identified liberals.