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>University is for adults, not toddlers. Oh really, so university students are able to consume alcohol, right? edit: noun: adult; - a person who is fully gr

by vdaniuk 11y ago

>University is for adults, not toddlers. Oh really, so university students are able to consume alcohol, right? edit: noun: adult; - a person who is fully grown or developed. - a person who has reached the age of majority. edit 2: "Longitudinal neuroimaging studies demonstrate that the adolescent brain continues to mature well into the 20s. This has prompted intense interest in linking neuromaturation to maturity of judgment." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/

vixen99 11y ago
So what? University still remains a place for adults. All sorts of odd laws and regulations pertain to institutions and other organizations notwithstanding.
- vdaniuk 11y ago
  University remains a place for adults who are not legally recognized as adults but are expected to fully act as adults. So consistent, much logic.
  - fixermark 11y ago
    You're conflating a binary with a continuum. The dominant American culture is not one with a single consistently-applied rite of passage to adulthood. Over about a decade, people go though multiple transitions (age of majority, voting age, drinking age---heck, a lot of people even recognize the age at which rental car companies stop applying a "You're probably a dangerous driver" surcharge, at 25 years old).
    - vdaniuk 11y ago
      Yes, adulthood is a continuum. That's why it's wrong to say that college is for "adults". Some of students are very immature, some have more wisdom than older people. So I am not disagreeing with your point of view.
      - Juliate 11y ago
        I see your point now, not disagreeing either. Meant adult as a contrast to toddlers (whom feelings and sense of security we do care about, for good reasons) and as a status that you target, grow into and nurture, especially more at the university (and hopefully after as well).
forgottenpass 11y ago
I don't get your point. The (US) drinking age is not tied to the age of majority or most other societal indicators of "adulthood." Unless your post means to say we should probably drop the drinking age. I'd agree it's pinned higher than maturity curve of youths, and personally find the illegality to encourage a debauched form of underage drinking. But I don't really see how that's here or there. re, your edit: Are you saying that by some developmental model 17 year olds should not be asked to rise to the standards of behaviour expected of adults? Please elaborate.
knodi123 11y ago
College students are, on the overwhelming majority, fully grown and physically developed. While they are not fully mentally developed, I don't think you could make the case that anybody below the age of death is incapable of further mental development. The article on age of majority makes it clear that it is a distinct concept from age of license, which can cover things like buying alcohol and running for elected office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority Honestly, your edit seems to put the nail into the coffin of your entire point.
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by vdaniuk 11y ago

vixen99 11y ago

So what? University still remains a place for adults. All sorts of odd laws and regulations pertain to institutions and other organizations notwithstanding.

vdaniuk 11y ago
University remains a place for adults who are not legally recognized as adults but are expected to fully act as adults. So consistent, much logic.
- fixermark 11y ago
  You're conflating a binary with a continuum. The dominant American culture is not one with a single consistently-applied rite of passage to adulthood. Over about a decade, people go though multiple transitions (age of majority, voting age, drinking age---heck, a lot of people even recognize the age at which rental car companies stop applying a "You're probably a dangerous driver" surcharge, at 25 years old).
  - vdaniuk 11y ago
    Yes, adulthood is a continuum. That's why it's wrong to say that college is for "adults". Some of students are very immature, some have more wisdom than older people. So I am not disagreeing with your point of view.
    - Juliate 11y ago
      I see your point now, not disagreeing either. Meant adult as a contrast to toddlers (whom feelings and sense of security we do care about, for good reasons) and as a status that you target, grow into and nurture, especially more at the university (and hopefully after as well).

forgottenpass 11y ago

I don't get your point. The (US) drinking age is not tied to the age of majority or most other societal indicators of "adulthood." Unless your post means to say we should probably drop the drinking age. I'd agree it's pinned higher than maturity curve of youths, and personally find the illegality to encourage a debauched form of underage drinking. But I don't really see how that's here or there. re, your edit: Are you saying that by some developmental model 17 year olds should not be asked to rise to the standards of behaviour expected of adults? Please elaborate.

knodi123 11y ago

College students are, on the overwhelming majority, fully grown and physically developed. While they are not fully mentally developed, I don't think you could make the case that anybody below the age of death is incapable of further mental development. The article on age of majority makes it clear that it is a distinct concept from age of license, which can cover things like buying alcohol and running for elected office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority Honestly, your edit seems to put the nail into the coffin of your entire point.

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